Religion or Science - How do they compare?

Well, their god is not the true God so I have no idea what they'd be studying if they studied what they think God is.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No trace of irony, no. The God of the Bible is THE God, the Creator God, period. All the others are demon gods or vague notions of a Creator God who is essentially unknown -- because He can't be known by the fallen mind. The demon gods are revealed in God's word the Bible as the gods of all the heathen or pagan nations. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yeah that would be an irony, but of course you don't believe in God and I do.

I was persuaded of the TRUTH of the traditional Protestant Reformation doctrines that are standard evangelical truth. I therefore accept everything God said about Himself. You on the other hand make up your God out of your own extremely inadequate ideas of who Jesus was and what He taught.

"...even when that which He said was not of God?????????" Are you talking about Jesus here? Jesus IS God, He can't say ANYTHING that is not of God.I tried to find out what theological persuasion Fleming Rutledge represents and couldn't find a review from anybody I know. It's perhaps enough to know she's a pastor of an Episcopal Church, which is against Christian teaching.

I am careful to avoid heretical writings these days, yes. It's not worth wasting my fragile eyesight on stuff like that.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I read a lot of heresies, cults, occultism, before going with what I recognized to be the truth. Heresies aren't new, they are very old. At some point, especially with bad eyes, the reasonable thing to do is stop wasting time on the devil's lies and grow in what you know to be true.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That's interesting. World peace depends on telling lies? Loving your neighbor means allowing them to go on in the thrall of demon gods?

He doesn't reject anything in the OT. He tells His followers not to demand justice but to yield when treated unjustly, that's not denying the justice of the OT, and He reveals that Moses was lenient about the law of divorce but that Christians need to tfollow it strictly. Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament and He went on to fulfill "every jot and tittle" of the Moral Law which is Holy. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Well, one is going to be persuaded by something, and they showed that the Catholic Church denied the Bible in favor of its own superstitious ideas, perhaps a little like what you are doing, and then they taught us what it actually says. I know that the Bible was Spirit-breathed by God, so following my own feelings instead of following the Bible would be foolish. cActually it is not doing that at all. You have a false idea of what God has done in and through Je4sus of Nazaeth because you prefer your own feelings to what the Bible that He Himself wrote reveals about Him.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Just want to give a little plug for that video I put up back in Message 697 which was to show GDR that Calvinist Christianity also teaches practicing the love of Jesus, but also because it's just good. Rosaria Butterfield was a liberal atheist lesbian Professor of English before she got to know a pastor and his wife who persuaded her to Christ after a couple of years of conversations over dinner. She went on to marry a man who became a pastor himself and they have devoted themselves to hospitality to all their neighbors over the years.In this talk she tells about what happened when a new neighbor turned out to be operating a meth lab in the house next door. She is an excellent story teller, as a former professor of English might be expected to be. It's aimed at a conference of Christians of course, rather than unbelievers, just so you know.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Of course. What are you carrying on about anyway?

We were talking about the regeneration of the spirit as how God can be known, not anything else. The ability to believe in the biblical God is the result of regeneration so it IS relevant.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Gosh, it's a good thing I DO know what I'm talking about a lot of the time or my feelings might be hurt by your comments. I guess I should pray for you more.

Oh I don't care if you call me fat because these days I am fat, but of course if you did it would be an expression of hostility and that would be unpleasant. But I do know what I'm talking about most of the time here -- can't say all of the time because who knows, but I know most of the time I do and that you are wrong so although your hostility is unpleasant at least I have the comfort of knowing you are wrong.