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Message 12 of 70 (832185)
04-30-2018 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by jar
04-30-2018 12:08 PM


Re: Perhaps You Can Initiate The Explanations
Just to be picky, the White Cliffs of Dover are not in that picture. That's a photo of Belle Tout lighthouse at Seven Sisters. Dover is about 100 miles to the East. But it's all the same geology which shows how extensive it is.
Also - Faith - it aint flat.
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The Chalk Formation was laid down under the sea during the Upper Cretaceous period, and was later uplifted at around the same time as the Alps were formed. In south-east England, the chalk deposits were formed into an elongated dome, with the long axis in a roughly east-west direction. Erosion along the line of this axis removed the central part of the chalk and revealed the underlying Wealden deposits. The remaining chalk forms the characteristic escarpments of the North and South Downs.
Stronger uplift and folding occurred in Dorset and the Isle of Wight, where the chalk strata are almost vertical in some places, such as The Needles.
Downland - Wikipedia

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Message 20 of 70 (832644)
05-07-2018 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by ICANT
05-07-2018 12:12 AM


Re: Perhaps You Can Initiate The Explanations
ICANT writes:
What if you believe there was a flood but you don't believe the flood did it.
Then you have to show us the physical evidence that a recent global flood would leave behind.
We should see the markers in geological, archaeological and genetic record. But we don't.

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Message 28 of 70 (832688)
05-08-2018 6:02 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by ICANT
05-08-2018 4:34 AM


Re: Perhaps You Can Initiate The Explanations
ICANT writes:
What would you expect it to leave behind?
Well first off it's not for me to say; if you have no physical evidence that you can point me too why would I accept what you say? But if you actually accept that you have no evidence, thanks, that's me done.
Second I would expect to see evidence of such a massive and recent global event everywhere in the strata. But we don't see it. What we DO see are many local flood events.
Similarly, we'd expect to see a genetic bottleneck in every species of plant and animal on earth - we don't. Nor do we see any interuption in man's societies spanning the supposed time of this flood.
If the land mass was all in one place and was relativity flat and you had that kind of rise of water the land mass would be covered in just a few hours. The tide would not go out the water would just rise until it reached 15 cubits above the highest point on the land mass. The water had 40 days to rise on the land. That would mean it did not have to rise too fast. When it returned it could take its time as it had over 300 days.
IF you want to claim many miracles, then fine, believe this tosh if you must, but this is a science thread, where's you evidence for this nonsense?
Then just over a hundred years later the earth was divided into the positions we observe today. So just what do you think you would find that looked like a world wide flood?
There is no known mechanism for The earth's land masses to move at that speed. Moreover, had it done so, the earth would be reduced to a cinder. But I guess we're back with the miracle stuff?

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Message 49 of 70 (832810)
05-11-2018 3:16 AM


and anyway Phat, calling it a myth ends the discussion. Which is fine.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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