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Author Topic:   Hubble's Law Disproves Young Earth Creationism
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Message 4 of 36 (832959)
05-15-2018 10:00 AM
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05-15-2018 9:50 AM


a car leaves Los Angeles ...
Would knowing the distance and the speed of light tell us how long light from the distant source had to travel for us to be able to see it?

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Message 6 of 36 (832962)
05-15-2018 10:51 AM
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Re: a car leaves Los Angeles ...
But if that was the assumption I can't see how that relates to the Young Earth Creationism. That assumption would hold true regardless of whether the Earth was 4.3 billion years old or 6000 years old.

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Message 16 of 36 (832990)
05-15-2018 6:45 PM
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05-15-2018 5:47 PM


look at the responses.
The problem is that so far nothing you have presented disproves Young Earth Creationism.

Significantly, so far everyone who has replied to you agree that Young Earth Creationism is simply a really stupid concept that can only be supported by utter and total willful ignorance or utter dishonesty. Yet they are all saying the same thing; what you presented fails to disprove Young Earth Creationism.


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Message 18 of 36 (832993)
05-15-2018 7:52 PM
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Re: look at the responses.
calvin writes:

It disproves a young earth, but only if we already assume that the big bang is true.

No it says nothing about the age of the earth. It does set a minimum age for the universe but you are trying to disprove Young EARTH Creationism, not Young UNIVERSE Creationism.

You might be able to challenge the Genesis 1:1 tale if you could show there was a difference between the age of the universe and the age of the Earth, but again, nothing in your presentation establishes that relationship.


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Message 20 of 36 (832995)
05-15-2018 8:09 PM
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Re: look at the responses.
But first you need to offer evidence that the Earth and Universe are NOT the same age.

The problem is that facts and reality will not challenge Young Earth Creationism.


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Message 23 of 36 (833013)
05-16-2018 7:11 AM
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05-16-2018 1:09 AM


Calvin writes:

I think it competely rules out a young universe. But if this is our only piece of evidence, it does not disprove a young Earth.

Fortunately, we have mountains more evidence for an old Earth. If you'd like I could provide some.

Remember, so far all of the respondents agree that the Earth is Young and it's unlikely you can present evidence we are not currently also presenting to Young Earth Creationists.

BUT you don't have yo convince us, rather you need to present something that a Young Earth Cult member would find convincing.


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Message 26 of 36 (833094)
05-16-2018 5:37 PM
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05-16-2018 5:35 PM


Have you ever poked holes in jello with a needle?

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Message 33 of 36 (833127)
05-17-2018 9:48 AM


If you are going to address Young Earth Creationism it would be a good idea to learn just how absurd the Cult can be. Stop and first look at what the YECs present as support for their fantasy and then see if you can match an old Earth evidence against a specific YEC assertion.

But remember, it will be very much like poking needles into jello. Pull the needle out and the hole gets healed and no sign of any damage done.


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