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Theodoric

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Message 116 of 198 (833265)
05-18-2018 10:03 PM

Reply to: Message 115 by Faith
05-18-2018 9:08 PM

Re: Cut the ad hominems.

I am gone for months and Faith still is making assertions with no evidence and basically continuing the comedy act.

Never been in a debate with a Muslim but I don't see why I wouldn't extend the benefit of the doubt in the relevant context. Same with Catholics and liberals.

Yeah right. Sure.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 124 of 198 (833350)
05-20-2018 10:27 AM

Reply to: Message 123 by Faith
05-20-2018 10:07 AM

Re: Cut the ad hominems.

Oh, and let me repeat: Islam is an evil ideology that seeks the murder of "infidels" as well as a world-wide caliphate; and Roman Catholicism is a power-hungry pagan superstitious ideology that also seeks the murder of "infidels." Two peas in a pod really, as some of the Reformers also noted. There are Muslims who fortunately don't follow their ideology very closely and the same with Catholics, but that doesn't change the fact that the ideologies are pure evil.

Time and time again Faith shows that there is no reason to even try to attempt civil discourse. Of course the radical right religious dogma Faith follows is pure. If they ever gained real power, I and many like me would be imprisoned or killed for our beliefs or lack thereof. Homosexuals would be imprisoned and/or murdered. Then they will move on to the righteous Christians that just are not pure enough.

That is the pure and good faith that Faith espouses.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Message 178 of 198 (833476)
05-21-2018 1:06 PM

Reply to: Message 170 by Phat
05-21-2018 10:53 AM

History unprovable, untestable?

The concept of historical sciences being unprovable and untestable is pure poppycock.

I guess if you want to tee up the ball we will smash it. Before you decide to write an OP, I suggest you do a little research on the science of history. Maybe even get a quick over view on how Bayes' Theorem is being used in history.

Here is a quick overview.

https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/12742

Richard Carrier has written a whole book on the subject.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/...-carrier/9781616145590

This will be fun.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?