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Capt Stormfield
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Message 118 of 198 (833268)
05-18-2018 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Faith
05-18-2018 12:21 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
...who believed in evolution...

Therein lies the problem: You believe in things, you don't understand them or learn about them.


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 126 of 198 (833353)
05-20-2018 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by Faith
05-20-2018 10:07 AM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
Oh, and let me repeat: Islam is an evil ideology that seeks the murder of "infidels" as well as a world-wide caliphate; and Roman Catholicism is a power-hungry pagan superstitious ideology that also seeks the murder of "infidels." Two peas in a pod really, as some of the Reformers also noted. There are Muslims who fortunately don't follow their ideology very closely and the same with Catholics, but that doesn't change the fact that the ideologies are pure evil.

And in that same spirit, how would you characterize the brand of fundamentalism you espouse?


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 129 of 198 (833382)
05-20-2018 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by Faith
05-20-2018 10:42 AM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
My fundamentalism teaches a merciful loving God who seeks to save us from the eternal punishment for our transgressions of His Law.

Gee, sounds pretty much like Catholicism and Islam. Sin, punishment created and conceived by God, mercy contingent on one variety or other of teabagging, maybe the odd mercy killing of fags and Hittites thrown in when it's era appropriate....

Don't really see the distinction.


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 136 of 198 (833412)
05-20-2018 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Faith
05-20-2018 5:23 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
...the distinction between Allah who wants infidels murdered...

Just like your god, whose followers committed numerous genocides at his command. Remember, Allah's agents are acting on his will, just like the Israelites were.

...and offers no salvation...

This will come as news to all the martyrs, reclining in paradise and enjoying their bottomless boxes of Glosettes.

...the Pope who wants infidels murdered...

Citation needed.
And aren't you mixing up your lingo here? I'm pretty sure the Pope is an infidel. You might be thinking of a different guy. Check for a beard.

...thinks salvation depends on being good...

The Horror!!!!!!

...or being in good standing with the Roman Church...

As opposed to, say, accepting the grace offered by the voices in your head?

...the Protestant God who died...

Have you even read the Bible? He had a bad weekend. Barely. I don't think I've ever met a person who wouldn't give up their life to save even a single child if they knew they got to come back on Tuesday, er, Monday.... wait, Sunday??? Sheeit, that hardly qualifies as dying. More of a blackout kind of thing. Was there any tequila at that Last Happy Hour?

...save us from the inexorable Moral Law...

AKA exactly the degree of petulance (he's alleged to be in charge of everything, remember?) you'd expect from the kind of asshole whose response to children who don't follow his will is "kill 'em all". You know, the flood thingy you believe in.

I understand that self-awareness is pretty much incompatible with fundamentalism, but really Faith, you have lowered he bar considerably.


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 141 of 198 (833418)
05-20-2018 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Faith
05-20-2018 7:09 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
...God's judgments in the past of seriously lawbreaking nations...

Exactly like Allah's judgements of today, and carried out the same way: Through his faithful servants following his will.

There is nothing in the Bible that tells US to do anything but be good...

Unless God tells us to. Like he told the Israelites back then, and like Allah tells his armies today. Think of it, Faith, it's like we're living in the Holy Land in Holy Times. As Amalekites.

...a carnally thrilling eternity served by beautiful young women

Raisins, Faith, raisins. I see you're not entirely au fait with contemporary Islam.

I need to cite the Pope's inquisition...?

You know he's dead right? When someone says "the president said...", you'd normally assume they weren't talking about Calvin Coolidge, right? Right? OK, sorry I asked.

...hasn't been rescinded? It still goes on in dungeons out of sight.

Under a pizza joint, amirite? Wow, thanks for the intel! Now the whole pedo thing is starting to really come together...

Would this be a bad time to get a little deeper into the Elvis conspiracy thing?

... All other religions condemn people to hell by pretending...

Ooooh, it makes me tingle when the dark shadow where your self-awareness ought to be falls across my screen.

You understand that they think you're the one pretending that... oh never mind.

The Moral Law is the Operating System of the universe, controlling everything that happens. It can't be changed, it's perfection itself. But since we aren't it condemns us, and that's what Jesus died to save us from.

You know, I think a vacancy opened up down at Chick Tract Inc. a while back... Just sayin', in case the pension isn't keeping up, that sort of thing. I mean it's not like they're dropping manna on the lawn any more, right?


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 143 of 198 (833420)
05-20-2018 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Faith
05-20-2018 7:46 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
No, the Koran talks out of both sides of its mouth...

You know those "101 Bible Contradictions" sites?

You know how you have answers for all the ignorant atheists gloating over them?

Guess what.....


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 145 of 198 (833422)
05-20-2018 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Faith
05-20-2018 8:08 PM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
I'm having that problem again of not being able to post

And yet....


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 146 of 198 (833423)
05-20-2018 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Faith
05-20-2018 8:10 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
...it's the same thing as Old Testament history of God's judgments for specific offenses if Muslims kill people indiscriminately today.

What makes you think it's indiscriminate? Are you denying the power of God to direct his servants to the right infidels, or to protect the innocent with his invisible hand? Similar to the laser like precision he used killing "... both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass..."...

OK, bad example, but....


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 173 of 198 (833469)
05-21-2018 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by jar
05-21-2018 7:47 AM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
Christianity has a long, long history of forbidding other belief systems and forcing people to accept Christianity. When Native American children are removed from their culture and told they can no longer speak their language, wear their dress, visit their sacred sites, live on their land, eat their food then that is genocide.

Ah, but you are missing the obvious distinction that Faith sees so clearly.
When Christians get together, move to an uninhabited land, write a Christian constitution, build a lot of churches, elect a herd of Godly men, justify their actions from the pulpit and pray over their decisions as they make laws to facilitate the redistribution of the people living in the uninhabited land - they're not actually acting as Christians, per se.

When Muslims do bad things, on the other hand, they are acting as Muslims. I'm sure I don't need to explain the difference.


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 174 of 198 (833470)
05-21-2018 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 161 by Faith
05-21-2018 10:20 AM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
Only Roman Catholicism, which is a pagan idolatrous superstition, forced anyone to become a "Christian.".

Missed English history, I see.

And the whole Plymouth thing? They were Catholics?

Who knew!


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 175 of 198 (833471)
05-21-2018 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by Faith
05-21-2018 3:15 AM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
but there is no Christian genocide.

Why does my mind keep hearing "There is no collusion" when I read this.


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 176 of 198 (833472)
05-21-2018 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by Thugpreacha
05-21-2018 10:53 AM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
She's clearly blue-screened on dissonance.

Maybe it's time for a nap and a reboot. I'm not sure encouraging her to channel Ken Ham is actually going to help much.


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