The roots of Creation Science and Darwinism

I'm an atheist. But you're not going to save me with this rabid crap.Is this the best you've got?

Your problem is that the world is running out of ignorance. You could quite as easily made the same silly statement prior to the discovery of the Higgs Boson - and every previous discovery predicted by theory. This is the strength of science; it makes predictions and tests those predictions against reality.You are only able to talk about dark matter because science has revealed it, and when there is an answer for you what then? You'll push onto trying to jemmy whatever science is working on next into a generic sentence in an ancient book as though it's some explanation of anything at all?

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The Higgs boson is an elementary particle in the Standard Model of particle physics. First suspected to exist in the 1960s, it is the quantum excitation of the Higgs field,[6][7] a fundamental field of crucial importance to particle physics theory.[7] Unlike other known fields such as the electromagnetic field, it is scalar and also has a non-zero constant value in vacuum. The question of the existence of the Higgs field became the last unverified part of the Standard Model of particle physics, and for several decades, was considered "the central problem in particle physics".[8][9]

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On 4 July 2012, the discovery of a new particle with a mass between 125 and 127 GeV/c2 was announced; physicists suspected that it was the Higgs boson.[11][12][13] Since then, the particle has been shown to behave, interact, and decay in many of the ways predicted for Higgs particles by the Standard Model, as well as having even parity and zero spin,[4][5] two fundamental attributes of a Higgs boson. This also means it is the first elementary scalar particle discovered in nature.[14]

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That there's more yet to be discovered and understood. I have no opinion on dark matter, let alone believe in it. If science said tomorrow it was all an arithmetic error I couldn't care less. I read with interest what those that are working in the area are thinking and discovering, that's all.Like you, I have absolutely no idea whether dark matter exists or not or what it is. Also like you, when science finally understands what it is, I won't understand it either. I'll just find it interesting Then you have no idea what science is or what it does. It's futile to make these false comparisons; we know and understand your motivation for wishing this to be true. But it obviously and demonstrably isn't.I note you make no comment on the prediction and subsequent finding of the Higgs Boson. Inconvenient I guess; rather destroys your argument doesn't it?

Good. Yes, clever aren't they? They now start the process of understanding it. Yes that was all you did; you pointed out that an ancient text claimed that god made everything. Thanks, we all know that. Sadly it explains nothing except that someone we don't know wrote something useless.Now to get back to Higgs. What's different about science doing the sums and predicting a particle and then finding it and science doing the sums and going off to look for dark matter?It seems that you have a model in your mind of god physically holding stuff together. I feel required to reject that concept until we can detect this particular god particle.

Yes, like I said, they're clever aren't they? And neither have you. Well, the thing is, there's no evidence at all for him so.... Nope. We know all sorts of things about our universe, including that everything we've ever discovered has a natural cause so this one will more than likely have one too. How do you know it wasn't a pink, universal unicorn? You're still avoiding the question aren't you? The argument you make for dark matter is identical to the argument that could be made for the Higg's boson before it was discovered. Espite its name god was not found therein. Fabulous, enjoy your belief. Meanwhile science will work it out. Not so infallible then, eh? Everything else? There I was thinking all this was all about us. Any clue what that might be?

A bit, sometimes. You have to believe.

Sometimes. Depends. Before you can see Him, you have to believe in Him.

Of course not, I'm an aunicornist Usually You will burn in everlasting hot compost. Such is the fate of the unbeliever.

My non-belief in the Universal Pink Unicorn has no effect on its existence or otherwise. I have never pretended to believe in the UPU. Nor Jesus Christ. My idol is Susanne George.

I don't belive in the UPU; but I don't know that it doesn't exist. And neither do you.

Nope. You are the only one saying that.Have you understood the point being made yet?

The bible is evidence that some unknown person or persons wrote some stories a long time ago. Virtually none of it is supported by any corroborating evidence. You also have to ask what it is evidence of?Tell me, what do you think the Book of Mormon is evidence of?

Hohum, how many years here Phat and apparently learned nothing?Creation science, like alternative medicine, has one unnecessary descriptor. If alternative medicine worked it would just be called medicine.