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Author Topic:   Time Dilation, the Hubble Shift and God's Eternal Universe
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Message 27 of 189 (862753)
09-12-2019 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Captcass
06-13-2018 5:51 PM


Re: Who?
Captcass writes:

I have known the truth since I was 24. I am 68 now.


One thing you should have learned in 68 years: Nobody knows "the truth" at 24.

“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves

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Message 30 of 189 (862756)
09-12-2019 1:06 PM
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09-12-2019 12:53 PM


Re: Who?
Captcass writes:

It has then taken me this long to explain it in terms of accepted science.


I thought you said accepted science was for idiots ("the mainstream is idiotic" Message 19).

Captcass writes:

It seems I mistook this forum for being a spiritual debate as it is, after all, E v C.


You did mistake it. E v C is about stamping out creationism - and other pseudoscience. It's mostly a scientific debate, not a spiritual one, though we do find that the "spiritual" people are wrong about a lot of other things too.

“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
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Message 60 of 189 (862801)
09-13-2019 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Captcass
09-13-2019 11:44 AM


Re: Interesting
Captcass writes:

I was a bitter atheist at the time....


I'm glad you've adjusted your pH.

Since you came here to discuss spiritual matters, maybe you'd be better off participating in a different thread.


“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
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Message 151 of 189 (864063)
10-06-2019 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by Captcass
10-05-2019 2:18 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
Captcass writes:

... 2 days ago the Journal of Cosmology began its first new volume in 3 years....


First new volume in 3 years? Not a lot going on in cosmology these days?

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Message 153 of 189 (864069)
10-06-2019 2:53 PM
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10-06-2019 2:43 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
Captcass writes:

Sorry if you don't care for the subjects they cover...


I didn't say that. I was surprised at how thin the coverage is.

Captcass writes:

... these things need discussion and airing.


Once every three years?

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Message 157 of 189 (864077)
10-06-2019 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 155 by Captcass
10-06-2019 3:18 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
Captcass writes:

The journal covers many of the non-mainstream topics they cannot get into the other journals but want to discuss.


You're missing the point. Why only one new volume in three years? When I was at university forty years ago the library had aisles and aisles of stacks and stacks of volumes and volumes of abstracts of scientific papers. Literally tons of abstracts. Why does your journal only have enough material for one volume in three years?

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Message 160 of 189 (864081)
10-06-2019 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by Captcass
10-06-2019 4:06 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
Captcass writes:

I would say they simply don't get that number of submissions on the topics they cover...


So there isn't really that much that the mainstream journals refuse to cover.

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Message 184 of 189 (864156)
10-07-2019 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by Captcass
10-06-2019 4:28 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
Captcass writes:

In cosmology, the mainstream journals will not publish anything that contradicts BB and expanding universe theories.


That's obviously not true. Those theories are fairly new themselves; they replaced older theories that they contradicted.

Captcass writes:

They serve those theories like they are already proven, just as many here take them as gospel truth.


"Proven" is not a concept that science uses. Those theories are the best explanations that we have so far - and they have been tested as rigorously as possible.

If cranky ideas are rejected it's because they do not measure up to scientific rigor.

Captcass writes:

It is also very difficult to get into the mainstream journals...


Yes. It is. Duh.

It's hard to get into Harvard. It's hard to get elected President. It's hard to climb Mount Everest.

Captcass writes:

... hence the advent of vixra.org, a simple repository for new papers on all kinds of subjects.....


It's an easy way to do something that should be hard - like buying a diploma online or taking a bus to the summit of Mount Everest or being born King of England. The easier it is to accomplish the goal, the less it is worth.

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Message 185 of 189 (864157)
10-07-2019 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 183 by Captcass
10-07-2019 11:46 AM


Captcass writes:

Did you know that just because a thread is begun you don't have to participate in it if you don't like it?


This isn't Family Feud. We don't chant, "Good answer! Good answer!" in reply to every post. One of the main reasons we reply to threads is to point out the errors.

And make no mistake: I get more flak from the people who agree with me than I do from the cranks I complain about. That's our approximation of peer review.


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