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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jaywill writes: As one who rejects Christ and whose name is not recorded in the book of life at the last judgment, the Bible is unique in predicting that your ultimate yet negative goal will be something called the lake of fire. Too funny. And where is your evidence that I reject Christ or that my name is not recorded? Again, you are just trying to con the rubes and showing your ignorance jaywill.
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jaywill Member (Idle past 2194 days) Posts: 4519 From: VA USA Joined: |
quote: Point out the top two or three matters that I supposedly ADDED to the Bible ? I don't count a Bible student expounding on the Bible as necessarily ADDING to it. You are now going to back up you accusation and demonstrate what I ADDED to the Bible. Go. And you saying " Well, I don't think that is a good interpretation" is not necessarily anyone you disagree with ADDING to the Bible. Give us your TOP two or three examples of my Bible ADDITIONS in your next post. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You added the utter nonsense in brackets, like substituting science (a concept foreign to any of the authors of the Bible stories) for knowledge.
In fact the vast majority of the content of the Bible you market is stuff that is added to try to make the Bible fit the dogma of your cult. And again, this is still just another example of you trying to con the rubes, move the goal posts, change the subject and avoid dealing with the topic.
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jaywill Member (Idle past 2194 days) Posts: 4519 From: VA USA Joined: |
quote: Please point out the amusing or the humorous part of this passage.
And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15) Which part of that makes you giggle in amusement ?
quote: So you are putting your trust in the book of Revelation being a lie ? You roll across the floor in hilarity because the words out of the last book of the Bible simply are not to be taken seriously ? Now those words seem much to agree with the words from the mouth of Jesus in Luke 10:20 Both that verse in are A BIG JOKE to you then ?
However do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are recorded in the heavens. (Luke 10:20) Ha, Ha ?? To have my name recorded by God in the heavens , big jolly joke!Ha, Ha. To have my name written in the Lamb's book of life at the final judgment, well, that's hilarious. I'll take it seriously.You go ahead and take it as amusing if you choose. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
jaywill writes: And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15) The humorous part is you thinking you have a clue what might be in such a book if it existed and your continued attempts to just market the dogma of your cult rather than addressing the topic. I don't think Revelation is a lie, just that it is all simply failed prophecy that refers to events the author expected to occur almost 1900 years ago.
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jaywill Member (Idle past 2194 days) Posts: 4519 From: VA USA Joined: |
quote: Brackets signals that this is an editorial clarification. Now if you want to say SCIENCE is not a synonym of KNOWLEDGE say so. However. Thesaurus.com has as a synonym for SCIENCE - you guessed it -
"body of knowledge" See Thesaurus.com Also included as synonymous words/expressions to the noun SCIENCE as INFORMATION -
quote:[my bolding] Open mouth and change feet jar. If this is your strongest example of me ADDING to the Bible, editorial brackets, I don't have anything to worry about. What else you have ?
quote: EXAMPLES, SPECIFIC EXAMPLES PLEASE - OF ... ADDING to the TEXT of the Bible. Put up or shut up.
quote: Dodge and excuse noted.Weak example noted. Another lying accusation from jar, yea, noted. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.
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jaywill Member (Idle past 2194 days) Posts: 4519 From: VA USA Joined: |
quote: That passage is about the LAST JUDGMENT of all the dead human beings who come before God's great white throne. The fact that the last judgment of all the earth's deceased has not YET occurred is not a matter of "failed prophecy". I don't have to claim knowledge of everything that is written in said book of life. I only have to believe in the consequences of someone's name NOT being recorded in the book of life. Right?Right. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and scrolls were opened; and another scroll was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by the things which were written in the scrolls, according to their works. (Rev. 20:12) ... and they were judged, each of them, according to their works. (v.13b) And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. (v.14) And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. (v.15) What is important is not that I know or claim to know everything written in the book of life. I am told about the result of something NOT written there, ie. a person's name. And at no time did I insist I KNEW that your name was not there. Put that strawman away. There is no hilarity associated with me thinking I KNOW everything written there. I never claimed that. And there is nothing amusing, as far as I can see, about being warned that it is best to have one's name recorded there. That is unless you prefer eternal departure into a lake of fire. That can't be good.
quote: Name me one failed prophecy from the book of Revelation then. Events that have not YET occurred as prophesied is not an example of the book's "failed prophecy". Point out - HERE'S the prophecy in Revelation.Point out - HERE'S the failure for that prophecy to be fulfilled in history. Your next post please. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given. Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Editorial is adding, imposing YOUR meaning on what is actually written.
And it still is just another example of you trying to palm the pea, change the subject, con the rubes and move the goal posts.
jaywill writes: Events that have not YET occurred as prophesied is not an example of the book's "failed prophecy". LOL Of course they are failed prophecy until such time as they do happen. Your denials are just more evidence that you have no touch with reality. Edited by jar, : Add rebuttal of the attempt to deny reality
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Jaywill writes: This is a room called Bible Study under which title it saysWhat does the Bible really mean? So in this room you discuss bible topics with others, not by teaching and preaching, which is a one way communication form.
Preaching" is mostly the term you use for having to listen to something you don't want to hear. Well you said it. And preaching is what you have openly admitted you are doing and what you intend to carry on doing.
Jaywill writes: I have plenty of good things to teach and preach right here on the Evolution Verses Creation Forum. Besides I gave you opportunity to show us you could say something of a better more meaningful world view to the Bible concerning the meaning of man in the universe. And I have said that if you want to do that, you open another thread called 'the meaning of man in the universe' - not in this thread or in the bible forums. That's how it works. Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Jaywill writes: Come and debate with me Tangle. It's really not difficult. In this thread we are - or are supposed to be - discussing Christianity and the End Times. If you want to discuss something else, you create a new thread for it in the correct forum. That way the original thread doesn't get polluted and run off at all manner of tangents.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 665 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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jaywill writes:
Are you being deliberately obtuse or does it come naturally? There is nothing about Jesus Christ's life, teaching, words, and deeds which suggest He wanted anything for Himself by which CONING the world was a way to obtain it. I didn't say a word about Jesus. I said YOU, jaywill, member of Evc forum. I said that YOU might be trying to con people or that YOU might be rube enough to believe the rubbish that you preach.
jaywill writes:
Time has already told. Your misrepresentation of the Bible has been exposed repeatedly in this very thread. And instead of standing up for what you supposedly believe and addressing the criticism, you invariably run away. That does not seem like the behaviour of an honest man. And time will tell who was cheated and who was given the real straight truth.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 665 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Or it could refer to jaywill, Faith and Phat. But we could also argue that "many false prophets will appear and deceive many people" could actually refer to him.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 665 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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jaywill writes:
A cold-fusion reactor that doesn't work "yet" is a failed cold-fusion reactor. It is a failure until it ceases to fail. You can't say it isn't a failure just because you really, really, really believe it will work "some day". First of all a prophecy which has not YET been fulfilled is not a "failed prophecy."And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1697 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's a nice assertion but only another totally unsupported assertion. That's cute coming from the all-time champion of unsupported assertions. It's your job to show that it's not unique to Christianity by quoting some other source of the same promises.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
An undated prophecy is just a wish.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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