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Author Topic:   The Evolution Theory is a Myth Equivalent to the Flat Earth Theory
Faith 
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Message 157 of 248 (836649)
07-20-2018 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by ringo
07-20-2018 5:43 PM


Re: Wrong again
I don't think it's a conspiracy, I think it's paradigm blindness, but there is a factor of their unwillingness to even consider another point of view. Just like all of you on this thread.

I can't really follow forexhr's arguments myself, though I get the basic gist that he's trying to show that it is mathematically impossible for truly new (previously nonexistent) functions to appear through the evolutionary processes of mutation, gene migration, natural selection and genetic drift -- and he uses statistics from the Lenski experiment with E coli -- I haven't seen anyone here even address that.


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Message 159 of 248 (836653)
07-20-2018 6:01 PM
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07-20-2018 6:00 PM


Re: Wrong again
Not one single person on this thread has actually addressed what the OP is arguing.

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Message 171 of 248 (836722)
07-21-2018 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by forexhr
07-21-2018 12:52 PM


Re: getting petty
You might as well give up, forexhr. I'd like to see your argument addressed with some understanding but it isn't going to happen. RAZD is only going to write lengthy arguments against something else entirely, Taq does something similar, I'm not sure what Meddle is trying to do but he seems to be missing it, ringo is only going to do snarky oneliner potshots, Tanypteryx is famous for his know-nothing "Me Too" attitude and nobody is even going to try to get what you are talking about. Too bad, I think there are some brains here somewhere but they seem to be badly misused these days.

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Message 174 of 248 (836732)
07-21-2018 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by Tangle
07-21-2018 4:41 PM


My guess is he would like to have some reasonable discussion with reasonable knowledgeable people in order to sharpen up his argument before trying it out at the professional level. Unfortunately he came to the wrong place. As of course did I. But if this is the wrong place there is no right place these days, sad to say.

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Message 182 of 248 (836809)
07-22-2018 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by forexhr
07-22-2018 6:24 AM


... I would like to ask you a questions, if you don't mind. You said that you can't follow my arguments, so can you please tell me what exactly you can't follow so that I can articulate and frame my arguments more clearly in the article. Thanks.

I want to answer this but it means rereading the article and noting the parts that confuse me. I'll try to get to that. The best I can explain it at the moment is that you seem to use words and concepts in a way that is unfamiliar to me. You may be using them correctly but if I can't understand them it leaves me confused. Anyway I'll try to be more specific when I can get to it.

I do want to repeat that your argument against evolution is the first one to show up here at EvC that I understand at all and I think it deserves more consideration than it is getting.

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Message 184 of 248 (836821)
07-22-2018 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by Tanypteryx
07-22-2018 8:46 PM


Re: getting petty
Oh but you DON'T actually "use" the ToE on your jobs, you merely assume its relevance and appropriate its terms to your work, but no, it is not actually of any real use. Unless you are merely talking about variation within the Kind, which is not the ToE. (sentence removed)

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Message 186 of 248 (836833)
07-23-2018 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by Tanypteryx
07-22-2018 9:38 PM


Re: getting petty
Why is it that you can't address what I actually said?

OK I'll remove the part about deceiving yourself, which I guess is the part you're objecting to.

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