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Author Topic:   A Book about the Anti-Trump Conspiracy
Taq
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Message 146 of 277 (837021)
07-25-2018 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Faith
07-24-2018 12:48 AM


Re: Focus On The Book
Faith writes:

No I don't follow the news. I see headlines on the internet, sometimes I read part of the story. Sometimes I hear it on the car radio when I'm being driven somewhere. I get the basic gist of some things. and I see some of what gets written on the Trump Bashing Thread which makes me sick. I cannot stomach what the Left is doing to him and to the nation, I really can't. I have to shut it out or it will kill me.

Do you think that Trump should never be criticized, no matter what he does?

After a while, the position you are taking seems really scary. It seems authoritarian. You consider it a conspiracy when the press does its job. If you look at the history of authoritarianism in the 20th and 21st century, the first thing a dictator does is go after the press, and silence them. Dictators can't stand be criticized, and the people who support these dictators also can't stand it.

This is the scary stuff that Pirro seems to be pushing, the idea that the Dear Leader can not be questioned. What the Dear Leader says is true, and no one should ever say otherwise. Perhaps this is why Trump likes dictators so much, because he is a bit jealous of the power they hold.


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Message 148 of 277 (837025)
07-25-2018 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Faith
07-25-2018 5:24 PM


Re: Focus On The Book
Faith writes:

My position is that there IS a conspiracy to attack Trump against all the rules of journalism and common decency because the majority of journalists are leftist. The "criticism" is so far out of bounds it's ridiculous to ask if I don't want him to be criticized at all: he's criticized incessantly, constantly, in such a way that it is impossibly to itnore how much the press hates ME and all his supporters, but they don't seem to care about that or about anything except imposing their leftist views on the nation.

What makes the criticisms out of bounds? Can you give an example?

When you appoint your kids to political jobs they are open to the same criticism as any other politician. In the past, the press mostly left family alone because they weren't politicians, they were just citizens. Not so with the Trumps. In fact, most presidents were smart enough to avoid nepotism. Not Trump.

This idea that we're pushing the idea that Trump "cannot be questioned" is beyond absurd in this political atmosphere. He isn't being "questioned" he's being subjected to slander, fake news, character assassination, taking his words out of context, refusing to give him the slightest benefit of the doubt, spinning everything he says to bring him under the black cloud of Political Correctness. It is so obvious to any conservative who has any contact whatever with the news, what's amazing is that nobody on the left can see it at all.

That's clearly not true. The accusations made against Trump are backed by facts. It isn't fake news. It is real news.

Edited by Taq, : No reason given.


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Taq
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Message 150 of 277 (837030)
07-25-2018 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Faith
07-25-2018 5:31 PM


Re: Focus On The Book
Faith writes:

I can't prove it because anything I point out gets rationalized away as if it's just normal criticism. If you can't SEE that everywhere you turn there is NOTHING BUT attacks on everything from big issues to trivia I'm not going to be able to convince you.

It never occurred to you that there is a lot of criticism because Trump deserves it?


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Message 155 of 277 (837036)
07-25-2018 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Faith
07-25-2018 5:39 PM


Re: Focus On The Book
Faith writes:

Oh gosh, did it every occur to me? I give up.
Hey the Liberal Nazis win, the Lefty Fascists win. Down we go.

Yeah, let's see what we win.

--Cheaper and better access to healthcare
--Lower tariffs on our exports
--no families being inhumanely separated at the border
--fair tax law
--allies who aren't dictators
--intelligence agencies who aren't attacked by the executive branch
--an EPA that actually cares about the environment instead of spending money on trips
--a president who doesn't have to pay off porn stars to cover up affairs
--a president who thinks that racists are not very good people

Yeah, that sounds awful.


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Taq
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Message 157 of 277 (837039)
07-25-2018 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by Faith
07-25-2018 5:49 PM


Re: Focus On The Book
Faith writes:

You have NO idea.

I guess I still don't because you refuse to spell it out.

What do you think this leftist agenda is, and how do you think it fits into this supposed conspiracy?


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Message 184 of 277 (837128)
07-27-2018 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 183 by Faith
07-26-2018 8:45 PM


Re: the problem
Faith writes:

. . . but most of us who voted for him think he's basically honest, . . .

WHY?????

It's too bad he's got moral problems with women but if you compare him to Clinton or Kennedy I'm not sure he's worse than either of them and the main difference is that the press left them alone for the most part, but they're ravening wolves against Trump.

The Clinton scandals were on the news all of the time, probably more than Trump's many scandals. In fact, Clinton was impeached for supposedly lying about his affair with Lewinsky. I think you need to revisit history.


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