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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
"Crisis" is a vastly over-used word. We have two crises before lunch every day now. It's a function of faster news access, not "better" or "worse". ...if a global or domestic crisis ensued.... A dictator can always use a crisis - like the Reichstag fire - as an excuse but that has nothing to do with whether the world is "better" or "worse" either.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Sure, there could be a real crisis. But the point is that a wanabe dictator doesn't need a real crisis. He can tell the gullible that the sun rising tomorrow morning is a crisis and they'll believe him. You don't need a crisis to make a dictator. All you need is people who are willing to accept one. If a rogue warhead or two decimated a prime financial or military center in the world (picture 9-11 with 5 nukes instead of 5 planes) it would definitely become a crisis...one which would allow Trump unprecedented power.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I can keep repeating it as long as you keep ignoring it: He doesn't need a real crisis. ...but I believe that in the event of a crisis he would simply use what executive powers he has now to seize control. He doesn't need a real crisis. He doesn't need a real crisis. He's never shown any interest in truth or reality before. He could get up tomorrow morning and shout, "There's a crisis!" and the Republicans would throw dictatorial powers at him with the biggest shovel they could find. A few months later they might pause their building of concentration camps long enough to ask what the crisis was.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
He's an incompetent moron who has demonstrated repeatedly that he would like to rule by decree without the encumbrance of legal niceties. He's more dangerous than a competent dictator.
Trump isn't a dictator type. Faith writes:
The ones who put him in office in the first place and the ones who haven't booted him out yet. And WHAT Republicans support him enough to give him such powers?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Hyroglyphx writes:
Because we rarely define greed as having enough to eat. But we rarely think of the people who wants a free handout at the expense of the farmer as greedy...Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Hyroglyphx writes:
I spoke of "having enough to eat" and you go straight to starvation? Surely you aren't so blind that you don't know there are people who don't have enough to eat.
Expect in an age of WIC, TANF, Section 8, Medicaid, SNAP, Medicare, EBT food stamps, etc, etc, starvation is about as rare as Polio. Hyroglyphx writes:
Everybody needs food. Some people need to use social programs and charities to feed their children and themselves.
So if somebody wants free food then they just want free food. Hyrogluphx writes:
It doesn't have to be. A healthy, well-fed workforce is essential to any society. Its not a matter of life or death.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I wouldn't downplay what the American military did in WWII but it was not G.I. Joe who won the war - it was Rosie the Riveter. A strong nation needs a strong workforce; a strong military is secondary. As a great power, it has historically been a given that our military be "second to none" as my WWII Dad used to be fond of saying.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
jar writes:
I was actually thinking of tanks. Eventually though he ran out of ammunition before the US ran out of tanks and so abandoned his position. The same would apply to trucks, aircraft, ships, etc.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Sometimes renovation looks like destruction. ... the destruction of America....Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
How is that "right" established? Did the previous inhabitants not have a right to their sovereignty? What makes you so special that you get to preserve your "right" at the expense of the next wave of "invaders"? ... we still have the right to our sovereignty.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Canada? I mean the evil ideology that wants to destroy the most generous giving nation that ever existed.... I don't like the Conservative Party either and I would never vote for them but only parts of their ideology are actually evil.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
But it was too much free enterprise that caused the problem.
One side wants private enterprise involved and government to butt out. Phat writes:
Yes, you right-wingers always think it's simple. The other side sees it as a human issue (and therefore a leftist one) Its just that simple.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
For the hundredth time, we are not "charged" to do anything. We have to do it because nobody else is doing it. You are charged to do it but you idolize the messenger and scoff at His message.
... feel--as ringo does, that we are charged to carry out the message whether the messenger ever existed or not. Phat writes:
For the hundred-plus time, we don't seek to replace anything. If He was doing anything, that would be great. Since He isn't, we have to do it ourselves. ... they seek to replace God....Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Hyroglyphx writes:
It isn't ironic at all. The unhealthy foods are cheapest because the manufacturers don't have to put as much effort into them. Just plowing them full of preservatives so they'll last forever on the shelf is more profitable.
Then maybe you find it ironic how the poorest people also happen to be the fattest people. Hyroglyphx writes:
Bad life choices are not restricted to the poor. We don't have to let people go hungry because they made bad choices in the past.
What its really called is "bad life choices." Hyroglyphx writes:
Yes, that's the conservative way - grab what you can. The poor are just a resource for the rich to use as they see fit, without asking anybody's permission.
... the lion doesn't ask permission to feed its young. It sees its need and it goes out and gets it. Hyroglyphx writes:
You're jumping to conclusions about which ones have a genuine need and which ones do not. And, yes, some people do need social programs and charities. I'm distinguishing from the ones that don't and who selfishly and needlessly pilfer from those who do.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
A more constructive approach would be to help get rid of Trump. Oh of course it's all Trump's fault. So let's all lie down and die.Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing. -- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
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