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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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I think this bit of information has pushed me over the edge, absolutely killed off what respect I had for the science of global warming as ascribed to human causes. Thus the ignorance remains and humanity is lost. Thank you for your contributions to our demise.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Oh I'll be long dead before any of those actions become necessary to survive. Though, I have advised my children to consider where their future, and the futures of the grandchildren, lay. Northern New England, northern west coast, Canada are options. Scandinavia is another.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Breitbart? Really?
You can't get more Alt-right and conspiracy fake news than that. Your list means nothing. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Breitbart is not a source. It is an alt-reich conspiracy rag known to lie through its teeth.
Your list contains many shoot from the hip exaggerated pontifications by those unqualified to make them. This is a list of borderline not-really-science predictions exaggerated upon and formulated to be an embarrassment to climate science presented for those too weak-minded to know science from political rhetoric. Like you. Breitbart is preaching BS to its own anti-science choir using smoke, mirrors, lies and exaggeration just to inflame their alt-reich political crowd. Your list in particular, and Breitbart in general, is rejected as a source for anything political let alone anything science. Might as well use the KKK as a source on race relations.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Real science from the actual world-wide real science consensus.
UN IPCC Reports NASA Trusted news sources.
ScienceAlert - Environment LiveScience InsideClimate PLEASE DO NOT DROWN ME IN TONS OF VERBIAGE. Typical American. This topic cannot be boiled down to some 30 second sound bites. That is the simple-minded purview of deniers like the alt-reich. Consider yourself drowned in verbiage. If you want to learn then LEARN.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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The last couple minutes are sponsor ads, as one can expect from YouTube, but the rest of this presentation might be helpful for you because, while it leaves out a whole lot of the details of the connections between greenhouse gasses and warming, it gives an American level of extended sound bite with accurate information.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Then have at it, Ned
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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I don't know how that 98% is figured but it would be part of the CO2 that is released from natural sources. My info is that plant decomp is about 30% of the natural sources.
About 87% of the human part of our CO2 is from Big Carbon.
This site might help. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : Restated for more accuracy. I hope.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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I suspect the science will get shaky. Science doesn't shake. Only denialists shake...and lie and misrepresent the science. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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The expansion of the sun won't affect this planet for 500 m to 1 b years. We have more immediate concerns in the next 200 years.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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The last numbers I can find says the earth will not be able to support life after 1 billion years. That means the temperature has to be rising now. But they will rise faster as time progresses. All very true, almost. In about 500m years this orb will be a bit toasty for human comfort as the oceans begin to evaporate from the increased solar gain. From there it gets worse while this beautiful blue ocean world of ours becomes a Venus v.2.0. Add another 6b years and our long dead planet may be orbiting well within the corona of a red giant star, but not for too long as the Earth is stripped layer by layer like an onion of all its matter. Of course we have looked at sun cycles and the sun's properties to see if this is in any way responsible for the warming we see today. Here is a good article. The sun's influence is too variable. The variations do affect our planet's climate but we have to look over a span of hundreds of millennia to see even the slightest effect. And we can see the effects both up and down. Right now, and for many millions of years in the future, so the science indicates, solar radiation is a negligible player and is as apt to lessen our solar heat gain as increase it over spans of hundreds of thousands of years. So, no, solar activity is not/will not be a contributor to our global warming problem in the next 10,000 years and, yes, solar activity will burn us up bad ... eventually. In the meantime the question is whether we do anything to lessen our coming man-made apocalypse or if we just kill so much more of our future population. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Physically, it could be done. A largish asteroid on a 10k year orbit passing about 30k km from the Earth could be used to gently nudge the planet out into a farther orbit from Sol over many millions of years.
The problem is the investment of time and technology required to keep the asteroid on path and not, like, crash into us, would need to be constant over those millions of years and you just know the System Interplanetary Senate would cut off funding in favor of capital gains tax cuts for the 1% when the Inner Planet Republican Party came to power. Besides, Earth would by then just be a useless chunk of hot rock with a dwindling population when all that hydrocarbon on Jupiter was just sitting there waiting to be mined and sold to the Asteroid communities. Gotta have priorities, xongsmith. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Even though they have a friend in the Oval Office the folks at Big Carbon are upset because the agenda that bought and paid for is not being implemented in the administration.
Seems the Trump folks are too incompetent to implement the Big Carbon policies properly and keep getting the regulatory hurdles all wrong.
Oil industry ripping into Trump administrationEschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation. |
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Would it be possible for you to quote the most relevant parts of that site? Why not, I've got a few minutes.
This site Greenhouse Gasses
quote: Carbon Dioxide
quote: quote: Methane
quote: quote: The real scientific evidence is in the notes. Too much for this treatment. If you want them they are in the document. Edited by AZPaul3, : added siteEschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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estimated percentages of atmospheric gasses the human factor can be very shaky. Only to those who do not understand the science, do not want to understand the science or have some ulterior motive against the science. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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