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Author Topic:   Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith
Tangle
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Message 1 of 1677 (838954)
08-31-2018 4:39 AM


Faith will be uploaded to her maker sometime in September. I just thought we ought to mark the occasion in some small way. So this is the small way.

Edited by Tangle, : Given her another 31 days to be raptured.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 4 of 1677 (838961)
08-31-2018 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Faith
08-31-2018 8:19 AM


Ok, I've given you another 31 days.

As for the others, well let's just see how you work out, they don't seem to be making any predictions.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 36 of 1677 (839015)
09-02-2018 2:50 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Faith
09-01-2018 6:13 PM


Re: Pre-Tribulation Rapture: Signs and Portents?
Fath writes:

This may all be totally crackpot ....

Yup.

When you buy a new car you see copies of it everywhere but before you never noticed them. You've become sensitised to this particular idea so you'll see it everyhere you look. The lanterns in Japan are an absolute classic example, they had nothing at all to do with the rapture, your mind simply invented the link.

It's the same psychological conditioning that happens when you and other believers talk about the ‘miracles’ you claim to have witnessed or the way god 'talks' to you - they all turn out to be everyday mundanities. Seeing Jesus's face in a piece of toast - same thing. All connected to confirmation bias and motivated thinking.

You'll be here on 11th September and 1st October and you'll stay firmly rooted to this planet until you're put into it and form part of it.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 38 of 1677 (839018)
09-02-2018 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
09-02-2018 7:59 AM


Re: Pre-Tribulation Rapture: Signs and Portents?
Faith writes:

But you could be right, I'll leave it at that.

I AM right Faith and what's more I can prove it. You won't be raptured on the 10th September or anytime this month.

Now that IS a prophesy. None of this interpretation, ambiguity, context, language, translation garbage. A straight forward and understandable by all prediction.

And in fact you will never be raotured. That's another prediction that can be proven right or wrong; but it'll take a bit longer. I hope, for your sake.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 41 of 1677 (839088)
09-03-2018 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Thugpreacha
09-03-2018 6:10 AM


Re: Pre-Tribulation Rapture: Signs and Portents?
Phat writes:

You can't know what will happen tomorrow. No one can. We can have a high degree of certainty based on scientific law...that the sun will rise tomorrow, for instance. we can even speculate that earth will exist in 200 years. Science gives us a limited degree of certainty but is not infallible.

I can prove what I predict, infallibly. On the 11th September, I will be proven correct and Faith will be proven wrong. No wriggle-room.

You're a gambling man Phat, I'll put my house on it - will you take it?

If you want an accumulator, I'll bet on the sun coming up tomorrow. You?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 44 of 1677 (839102)
09-03-2018 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Thugpreacha
09-03-2018 6:14 AM


Re: If I'm raptured there will be millions of others raptured too
Phat writes:

Socialism scares me, because unscrupulous people exist regardless of the system favored. The humanist philosophy that people can learn to be good has no real proof, so far.

Scared of socialism? Sheesh, that's the entirety of the Christian message - love thy neighbour and do as you would be done by. This is why Christians get a bad name, they love getting on their knees and hailing the wonders of the Lord, but ignore his instructions because it doesn't suit them.

The humanist philosophy is that people are human, flaws and all, but that we should build humane societies that have the needs of everyone taken into account and provides a fair crack for all. And again, it's a fundamental Christian principle that people can be redeemed. What on earth are you think about Phat?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 58 of 1677 (839138)
09-03-2018 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Thugpreacha
09-03-2018 11:53 AM


Re: If I'm raptured there will be millions of others raptured too
Phat writes:

You bring up that Jesus would likely approve. I can't argue with you guys about this point.

Lots do. But of course there's no real argument, just self-justification and rationalisation.

It pisses me off though. Where is my liferaft?

You should realise by now that there is no liferaft. This is what we all have and we need to make the most of it. Betting today on a childish myth of a better life after is really foolish. All that promise ever was was a way to allow the downtrodden masses to bear an unbearable inequality between those with wealth and power- most importantly the church - and the proles that actually create the wealth and power for them.

You have said that you have money, Tangle. Would you want to give it all up?

Of course not. But you've created a false dichotomy. Humanism and socialism isn't communism - I'm for fair and progressive taxation funding a high level welfare state and a determined efort to create a more equitable society, because we know that inequality creates unhappiness. I always find it weird that Americans search for their much lorded happiness where they know it's least likely to be found.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 68 of 1677 (839358)
09-07-2018 2:36 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
09-06-2018 8:33 AM


Re: Humanity's Utopian Dreams Are Always Nightmares but the Lesson is Never Learned
Faith writes:

If we do stick around, the modern version of the Inquisition will probably get us since you can't have dissenting voices when you're trying to create the perfect religious vision of the perfect world.

It's ok Faith, you're perfectly safe to get on with your praying and grovelling to your maker while we get on with trying to make the world a better place. Nobody cares about your batshit ideas so long as you don't try to impose them on others. You'll just fade away into total irrelevance over time.

For example I heard today that the UK's majority religious belief is no belief - 52%. Protestant belief has decline from 40% to 14% over 50 years. I'm really sorry, you're just not worth persecuting - you're just fading away.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 71 of 1677 (839389)
09-07-2018 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Faith
09-07-2018 3:34 PM


Re: Humanity's Utopian Dreams Are Always Nightmares but the Lesson is Never Learned
Faith writes:

So you're all set up now for the One World Pagan Religion. It could be that even YOU might oppose it at some point and be persecuted for it.

Look, if you're going to chuck insults around at least get the name-calling right.

quote:
Paganism : a religion that has many gods or goddesses, considers the earth holy, and does not have a central authority

Ask yourself, how can atheism be paganism?

But as long as we're around we will be persecuted for opposing it no matter what you say.

Get over yourself, so long as you get on with your own grovelling to your weird idol, the rest of us will just get on with creating a better society and happily leave y'all alone.

It includes all this gay marriage and all-genders stuff that we have to oppose if it's imposed on us, as the gay marriage stuff has been imposed on wedding businesses.

Yeh, that's the extent of the 'persecution' - be careful about baking cakes if you want to sell them to the public. It must be utterly devasting for you. Forget burning at the stake or slow crushing or having your limbs slowly ripped out of your body - it's trial by cake. Faith, do get a grip.

At this point I really don't WANT to be around but I got another "portent" yesterday that contradicts the others. Sigh.

Of course you did Faith, of course you did. I wonder why?

But just in case, I suggest you wear a clean pair of knickers tomorrow and for the next couple of days.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 73 of 1677 (839393)
09-07-2018 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Faith
09-07-2018 4:12 PM


Re: Humanity's Utopian Dreams Are Always Nightmares but the Lesson is Never Learned
Faith writes:

How did I insult you?

You didn't, you can't.

I'm just saying, if you're trying to chuck an insult, don't let yourself down by getting it all laughably wrong.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 72 by Faith, posted 09-07-2018 4:12 PM Faith has responded

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Tangle
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Message 75 of 1677 (839411)
09-07-2018 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Faith
09-07-2018 4:43 PM


Re: Humanity's Utopian Dreams Are Always Nightmares but the Lesson is Never Learned
Faith writes:

There is reason to think a version of paganism is going to be the One World religion no matter how much atheism is growing. (book I mentioned, The Coming Pagan Utopia). Atheists aren't going to like the paganism either, which is why I suggested you might oppose it and get persecuted for it.

The world is getting less religious not more. Do try to hang on to some straw of reality. This dark age of irrational thinking is in terminal decline. You can delude yourself if you like but you can't argue with the numbers.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 90 of 1677 (839461)
09-08-2018 1:55 PM


What' your last meal going to be Faith?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 96 of 1677 (839473)
09-08-2018 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by caffeine
09-08-2018 4:03 PM


caffeine writes:

But what will you put on the toast?

I held back on that because I thought it was a smart choice. But to my mind it's marmite or just butter. The butter would have to be salted. But marmite would be the choice. God would know to wait if necessary.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 105 of 1677 (839492)
09-09-2018 5:12 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
09-09-2018 4:43 AM


Re: I'm not alone
Don't forget your toothbrush.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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 Message 104 by Faith, posted 09-09-2018 4:43 AM Faith has responded

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Tangle
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Message 107 of 1677 (839494)
09-09-2018 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Faith
09-09-2018 5:18 AM


Re: I'm not alone
It's ok Faith, nothing is going to happen.
I can absolutely guarantee it.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


This message is a reply to:
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