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JonF
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Message 68 of 5796 (842911)
11-09-2018 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by PaulK
11-09-2018 4:08 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Some people protested outside Carlson's home.

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JonF
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Message 80 of 5796 (842940)
11-10-2018 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Faith
11-10-2018 1:24 PM


Re: Did the intern accost Acosta or did he accost her?
Who identified the protest as a antifa, and based on what evidence?
You're a big fan of eyewitness evidence: I was at the protest outside Tucker Carlson’s house. Here’s what actually happened.
Seems to me that the protest was a bit much, but far from the riot portray in the right wing press.

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JonF
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Message 83 of 5796 (842943)
11-10-2018 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Faith
11-10-2018 12:47 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
It's a little more complicated than what you've read. It needs to be settled in court.
There is the Constitutional argument that Whitaker needs Senate approval. That needs to be hashed out. But there is more.
If Sessions resigned, it's probably OK. Formally he did resign but there is a legal principle called "constructive discharge" which applies when an employee technically quit, but felt he had no choice but to do so. Since Sessions' letter began
"At your request, I am submitting my resignation., it may have been firing by constructive discharge.
The Federal Vacancy Reform Act allows Whitaker's appointment, but it specifies that it applies in case of an official "dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office. So if Sessions was fired the FVRA may not apply and the Section 508 statute applies and the appointment is illegal.
The administration argues that Sessions resigned and the FVRA supersedes Section 508. Both of those claims are debatable.
There's a pretty even-handed summary at
Matthew Whitaker’s appointment as acting attorney general is almost certainly Illegal.

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JonF
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Message 84 of 5796 (842944)
11-10-2018 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Faith
11-10-2018 2:29 PM


Re: The attack on Tucker Carlson
I have no reason to believe Carlson's account. Let's see photos of the alleged vandalism.
As I said, I think the protest was a little over the top. I feel the same about harassment in restaurants.
It's significant that you can't tell who identified the protestors as antifa, and what evidence led to that claim.
I'm not defending anything. I'm seeking the truth. Your account sounds like a significant exaggeration. So trot out your evidence.

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JonF
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Message 87 of 5796 (842947)
11-10-2018 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Faith
11-10-2018 2:59 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Yeah, it's such a pain in the ass to do things legally. That's why the administration doesn't do it and gets slapped down so many times in court. We should just anoint Trump as dictator for life and get rid of the Constitution and all the laws.
The Constitution and our laws say that the President cannot appoint whoever he wants as acting AG whenever he wants. The issue is whether or not he can legally do so in this case.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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Message 88 of 5796 (842949)
11-10-2018 5:20 PM


Speaking of wussies:

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JonF
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Message 101 of 5796 (843018)
11-11-2018 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Faith
11-11-2018 4:40 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Antifa is a very small portion of liberals. You are tarring all liberals with the same brush.
It's the equivalent of me saying all conservatives are KKK. I.e. it's BS.
Speaking of antifa, who determined the protestors at Carlson’s house were antifa, and based on what evidence?
I bet you assumed they were antifa because they were liberals.
BTW antifa does stand for antifascist. They are not fascists
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 103 of 5796 (843020)
11-11-2018 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
11-11-2018 5:13 PM


Re: The attack on Tucker Carlson's house
OK, Fox and someone else claimed they were antifa. Based on what evidence? Were they wearing black? Face masks? Were they violent? (Some say yes, some say no. We need evidence. I didn't see anything in that video.) Why isn't Carlson posting pictures of his car and door?

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JonF
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Message 130 of 5796 (843088)
11-13-2018 7:59 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by Faith
11-12-2018 2:52 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
It was not a complaint about style. It was a major scandal.

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JonF
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Message 139 of 5796 (843154)
11-13-2018 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Faith
11-13-2018 5:04 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Yeah, who cares if he's a grifter who harrases poor old ladies for their money. Or that he makes it explicit that he opposes much of the foundations of our democracy. Or that he's rabidly partisan and makes Sessions look like a Democrat.
It's not as if the DOJ has any function beyond enforcing the Leader's whims.

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JonF
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Message 141 of 5796 (843156)
11-13-2018 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Faith
11-13-2018 5:22 PM


Re: Nationalism or Americanism
The white supremacists think he means something different. Especially since he won't condemn neo-Nazis and their ilk.

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JonF
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Message 151 of 5796 (843181)
11-14-2018 8:14 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Faith
11-13-2018 5:36 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
So, to summarize, trurh doesn't matter. Only the right wing echo chamber of hate matters.
Glad you cleared that up. This seems apropos:

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 152 of 5796 (843182)
11-14-2018 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Percy
11-13-2018 5:42 PM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Not everyone is in favor of legal immigration. Stephen Miller

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JonF
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Message 153 of 5796 (843183)
11-14-2018 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Hyroglyphx
11-13-2018 7:22 PM


Re: Bizarre-O World
Democrats defending Russia??

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JonF
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Message 156 of 5796 (843189)
11-14-2018 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Percy
11-14-2018 9:08 AM


Re: Not Honest nor Straightforward
Fixed. It's hard to copy and paste on a phone.

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