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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I keep hearing it was from Russia. If not I'll find out soon enough.
You should know already, it's been out in the open for many months. The dossier came from Fusion GPS, a US corporation based in Washington DC. The author was Christopher Steele. A large part (not all) of the information in the document came from Russian sources.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I admit my opinion is worth nothing, but there certainly are people who DO think she had corrupt intent, and again I'm waiting to see what conclusions they come to when they've fully investigated the situation. If what you say is correct she'll be exonerated again. But if there's deceit involved in it perhaps she won't. Again, what I hear is that she ILLEGALLY destroyed 33,000 emails that included classified emails, then physically destroyed her equipment in case any evidence still remained, then even washed it all down with some kind of bleach to destroy anything that might have escaped the physical destruction. Sure SOUNDS LIKE she was going to great lengths trying to hide something that could expose criminal guilt.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yup, "a large part of the information...came from Russian sources."
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I AM still waiting for evidence. Meanwhile I'm answering questions according to what I've heard
You are making claims of fact which are not supported by the extant evidence.
I don't know if Hillary should be regarded as a source as far as the FISA warrant goes, but not naming her as having purchased it would seem to deprive the FISA court of some important information in their decision about granting it.
The Court was informed that the motivation for paying for the dossier was political.
quote: (In a footnote... but lawyers and judges read footnotes).
Again, I think all this is coming out soon.
It's out.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I suspect the "extant evidence" is perhaps not exactly all the evidence there is, and that it's not all "out" yet, and maybe even some of what is described there isn't legal anyway, but hey I'm just giving impressions I get so again it's worth nothing. And again I hope the current investigation comes to a conclusion soon.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The gist of the information I heard was that whatever she was doing it's illegal, and that it wasn't just three classified emails, but they even now have four as evidence that didn't get destroyed.
Which reveals the bias of your sources. They don't have four. The have three There were 100-odd that were classified afterwards.
Hey, I don't want to argue all this here, the details and legalities are too hard to keep track of.
Then stop making claims of fact that are not supported. The details are critical. If you can't keep track of them you have no business vcommenting.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
PROVING corrupt intent is key.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Yup. So fucking what?
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I suspect the "extant evidence" is perhaps not exactly all the evidence there is, and that it's not all "out" yet
Could be. A lot of it is out. And you keep making claims of fact based on what's out, and what's out does not support those claims.
but hey I'm just giving impressions I get so again it's worth nothing
Agreed.
And again I hope the current investigation comes to a conclusion soon.
I'm expecting them to draw it out as long as possible, with lots of salacious leaks. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As long as you keep making allegations that are false according to what I've been hearing I feel it necessary to say what I've been hearing. None of this is going to matter until the investigation finishes its work, not what you say or what I say.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What you know to be out and what the investigation knows to be out may be two entirely different things.
I suspect this investigation has no reason to draw it out artificially as the Mueller investigation did, or to leak salacious information as those hoping Mueller would skewer Trump did. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You've made claims of fact that are not supported by the extant evidence, as I've explained in detail.
there was absolutely nothing to justify spying on Trump, only that utterly fraudulent "dossier." there was absolutely nothing to justify spying on Trump, only that utterly fraudulent "dossier." She had classified information on her personal server. That is against the law, i.e. criminal. She went to great pains to erase her emails and wreck the computer to destroy the evidence. That is obstruction of justice. As I understand it the ONLY justification for any surveillance of the Trump campaign was the Steele dossier. then physically destroyed her equipment in case any evidence still remained, then even washed it all down with some kind of bleach to destroy anything that might have escaped the physical destruction Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes those are the impressions I have.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The Mueller investigation was very short compared to similar investigations. It was also astonishingly non-leaking, a miracle in Washington.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You presented them as facts.
ABE And as I've pointed out in detail, they are falsified by extant information. You certainly can hope for further incriminating evidence,but as far as we (and your sources) know they are promulgating bullshit. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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