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JonF
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Message 2086 of 5796 (853196)
05-23-2019 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 2082 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:14 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
I have zero interest in continuing this discussion.
Translation: my ass has been handed to me yet again and I'm skedaddling like a scared bunny.
I'm waiting for something on the subject from someone I consider trustworthy.
You'll never get it from the liars you trust.
The utterly **** stuff you've all being doing to Trump brands you all as beyond political redemption and I am far from the only one who feels this way.
Yep, you're far from the only one with such scorn for the law and Constitution.

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Faith 
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Message 2087 of 5796 (853198)
05-23-2019 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 2086 by JonF
05-23-2019 11:24 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
You and all the rest of your ilk are despicable.

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Taq
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Message 2088 of 5796 (853199)
05-23-2019 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 2085 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:18 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Faith writes:
God help us.
Indeed. As Trump continues to step all over the Constitution, we do need help. Perhaps you forgot that Congress is an equal and separate power under the Constitution?

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Faith 
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Message 2089 of 5796 (853201)
05-23-2019 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 2088 by Taq
05-23-2019 11:27 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
No, it's Congress and the Left who have forgotten that the Presidency is an equal and separate power under the Constitution. Yes that IS the problem here, too bad the despicable Left continues its crazed vendetta that is only going to bring down the entire American enterprise.

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Message 2090 of 5796 (853203)
05-23-2019 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 2089 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:40 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
No, it's Congress and the left who have forgotten that the Presidency is an equal and separate power under the Constitution.
Actually, that seemed to be true when the Republicans had majorities in both Houses.
Now the Democratic majority in the House is remembering their Constitutional duty to remind the nation we don't have to be a basketful of deplorables.

If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

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PaulK
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Message 2091 of 5796 (853204)
05-23-2019 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 2079 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:01 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
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Any court decision forwarded from the **** is suspect, just as everything the **** has been doing for the last two and a half years is disgustingly political third world style destructive anti-American anticonstitutional **** and fake news and just plain ****. Actually it goes back farther than that but I'll stick to Trump's Presidency.
By which you mean any court decision you don’t like should be rejected. Without any concern for the law or the facts. We’ve seen enough discussion here and in the past to know that.

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ringo
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Message 2092 of 5796 (853205)
05-23-2019 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2089 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:40 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Faith writes:
No, it's Congress and the **** who have forgotten that the Presidency is an equal and separate power under the Constitution.
Yes, the President is equally open to criticism and investigation. That scrutiny of all branches is what protects democracy. Trump is doing whatever he can to thwart that legitimate scrutiny.

Izquierdo.

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JonF
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Message 2093 of 5796 (853206)
05-23-2019 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 2087 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:25 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
You have nothing but gratuitous insults. Did you notice that in all this subthread you have not once referred to any piece of evidence?
It's the law, Faith. Mnuchin and Trump are blatantly breaking the law.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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Taq
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Message 2094 of 5796 (853210)
05-23-2019 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 2089 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:40 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Faith writes:
No, it's Congress and the **** who have forgotten that the Presidency is an equal and separate power under the Constitution.
Congress was given the power to oversee the Executive branch in the US Constitution. It is also law that Congress can receive on request the IRS returns from any citizen, including the President. It is only you who is supporting the destruction of our laws and Constitution.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 2095 of 5796 (853212)
05-23-2019 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 2089 by Faith
05-23-2019 11:40 AM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Faith writes:
No, it's Congress and the **** who have forgotten that the Presidency is an equal and separate power under the Constitution.
You are ignoring the constitutional defined duty of Congress to have oversight of the Presidency.
If Trump and his cronies are innocent why all the lies about contact with Russia?
If Trump and his cronies are innocent why all the contacts with our worst adversary, Russia?
If Trump and his cronies are innocent, why the total stonewall of all Congressional investigations.
Trump is an adult. If he wanted privacy for his criminality he should not have run for President.
If he is afraid of what the press will find out about his lies and criminal conduct, he should not have run for President.
If he didn't want anyone to look into his finances he should not have run for President. And he should have kept his stupid mouth shut about his wealth and financing. It is clear he has been lying about his wealth to the media for decades.
The big deal maker has never actually made a deal in his life. He can't even make deals with Congress when it's handed to him on a silver platter.
Too bad that the despicable right and the despicable Trump administration continue to commit criminal acts that will eventually bring down the entire Trump Criminal enterprise and hopefully put them all in prison.
The thing about marks of a con man like you, is they never can admit that they are marks.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Taq
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Message 2096 of 5796 (853214)
05-23-2019 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2095 by Tanypteryx
05-23-2019 2:24 PM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Tanypteryx writes:
If Trump and his cronies are innocent, why the total stonewall of all Congressional investigations.
Trump is an adult. If he wanted privacy for his criminality he should not have run for President.
If he is afraid of what the press will find out about his lies and criminal conduct, he should not have run for President.
If he didn't want anyone to look into his finances he should not have run for President. And he should have kept his stupid mouth shut about his wealth and financing. It is clear he has been lying about his wealth to the media for decades.
Let's also not forget that the investigation into President Bill Clinton by Ken Starr was because of allegations made in connection with savings and loan banks. How strange that Republicans only have a memory that goes back to George W. Bush.
Have Republicans also forgotten that they impeached President Bill Clinton over supposed crimes that had no connection to the original investigation into potential financial crimes? Has Trump been impeached? Before right-wingers start crying over how badly Trump is being treated, perhaps they ought to read some history from the 1990's.

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Chiroptera
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Message 2097 of 5796 (853215)
05-23-2019 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2096 by Taq
05-23-2019 3:20 PM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Let's also not forget that the investigation into President Bill Clinton by Ken Starr was because of allegations made in connection with savings and loan banks.
Or how several House committees looked into Benghazi.
Constitutional checks and balances when Republicans do it.
Unconstitutional usurpation of power when Democrats do it.
If a Democrat is elected President in 2020 and the Republicans have control over one or both houses, you better believe that they will gin up some investigation.
And the followers of the Republican cult of nihilism will once again be reading from the other script.

If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

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Faith 
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Message 2098 of 5796 (853216)
05-23-2019 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 2095 by Tanypteryx
05-23-2019 2:24 PM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Trump cooperated more than any other President ever did, with the Mueller investigation, supplied tons of documents. So don't pretend he's stonewalling. He does not have to turn over his tax information. Although I just heard it's not his tax returns being demanded now but the information from financial institutions. This refrain that it's criminality that motivates him is scurrilous despicable lying propaganda. Ugh I hope this all gets exposed and you all have to admit you're wrong. Although I know you won't because the Left doesn't. Mueller's report exonerated Trump but you all go on and on as if it didn't and I'm sure that will be the case no matter what is proved against your lies.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 2099 of 5796 (853217)
05-23-2019 3:54 PM


Pelosi the Great
So, in Message 2870 on the Trump Bashing Thread, Theodoric says Pelosi is the best politician going, which of course really means she's the best slanderer of Trump, the best liar even for a Leftist, and the best manipulator of the media.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Taq
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Message 2100 of 5796 (853218)
05-23-2019 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2098 by Faith
05-23-2019 3:42 PM


Re: A Bit of Fake News
Faith writes:
Trump cooperated more than any other President ever did, with the Mueller investigation, supplied tons of documents.
Please give us the sources and evidence you are using to determine that Trump cooperated more than any other President.
Also, those documents were subpoenaed, so it isn't like he had a choice.
He does not have to turn over his tax information.
The IRS does have to turn them over as stated in US law.
Although I just heard it's not his tax returns being demanded now but the information from financial institutions.
Deutsche Bank has to turn those over because Congress subpoenaed them, a power that Congress was given in the US Constitution.
Have you forgotten about the investigation into President Bill Clinton where Congress and Special Counsel Ken Starr subpoenaed evidence from financial institutions? Do you have amnesia?
Ugh I hope this all gets exposed and you all have to admit you're wrong.
I haven't said anything about Trump doing anything illegal with his finances. What I have said is the Congress has the constitutional power to oversee the Executive branch, has the power to get IRS tax returns, and has the power to subpoena financial institutions. You seem to want to ignore the Constitution, as do most Trump supporters.

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