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Theodoric
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Message 2296 of 2371 (854460)
06-08-2019 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2293 by Faith
06-08-2019 9:32 PM


little donnie lies again to make himself feel like a man
The orange nitwit's lies are so easily disprovable.

quote:

“President Donald Trump boasted of “large” agricultural sales to Mexico as part of a deal reached Friday on border security and illegal immigration that averted the threat of U.S. tariffs, but the deal as released had none, and three Mexican officials say they’re not aware of any side accord,” Bloomberg reported. “Increasing Mexico’s purchases from the U.S. wasn’t discussed during the three days of talks in Washington that led up to Friday’s agreement, said the three people with knowledge of the deliberations who weren’t authorized to speak publicly.”
There might not even be a mechanism for such discussions to ever occur.
“Mexico has no state-owned agricultural conglomerate to buy food products or handle distribution, or a government program that could buy farm equipment for delivery to producers,” Bloomberg noted.

https://www.rawstory.com/...ot-for-calling-off-his-trade-war

He does not even understand that the lies he tells are not even possible.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Faith
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Message 2297 of 2371 (854463)
06-08-2019 10:36 PM
Reply to: Message 2296 by Theodoric
06-08-2019 10:32 PM


Re: little donnie **** again to make himself feel **** a man
I don't think he ****, he believes what he says, but I don't care at this point anyway. All I care about is that he made a deal that stopped the caravans.

Ya know what. He IS a man, he's a strong personality, flawed for sure but strong where it counts. He's withstood almost three years of personal attacks. That takes character where it counts. He knows his cause is a good one and that his supporters know it too.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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DrJones*
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Message 2298 of 2371 (854467)
06-08-2019 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 2295 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:31 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Looks to me llke he knew what he was doing and that Mexico would stop the flood of illegal immigrants because of the threat of the tariff.

but these agreements were made months ago, before the threat of the tariffs. Trump is claiming some great deal has been made to avoid his threat but it actually happened months ago, he's lying.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Faith
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Message 2299 of 2371 (854468)
06-08-2019 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2298 by DrJones*
06-08-2019 10:49 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Whatever, who cares. If it took tariffs, fine with me. Whatever works.
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Theodoric
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Message 2300 of 2371 (854470)
06-08-2019 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2299 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
If it took tariffs, fine with me.

The agreements happened before the tariff threats.

Edited by Theodoric, : Time to calm down


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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DrJones*
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Message 2301 of 2371 (854471)
06-08-2019 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2299 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
again, the agreements happened before the threat, do you not understand how time works? The tariffs would be an empty threat anyways unless donny wants to blow up the new NAFTA deal and make himself look even more incompetent.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Theodoric
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Message 2302 of 2371 (854472)
06-08-2019 10:57 PM
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06-08-2019 10:54 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
do you not understand how time works?

One would assume Faith did not know how time worked considering her posts here. But I think it just shows that all she is a troll.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Faith
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Message 2303 of 2371 (854475)
06-08-2019 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2302 by Theodoric
06-08-2019 10:57 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Look, I always have to take anything you guys say with a huge grain of salt. I'm waiting to hear other explanations than yours. It was the tariffs that did it apparently, whatever the earlier agreement was about, I think Trump gets credit for knowing that tariffs would work. That's enough for me at the moment.
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JonF
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Message 2304 of 2371 (854498)
06-09-2019 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 2299 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:51 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
The end justifies the means, as Jesus said.
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jar
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Message 2305 of 2371 (854500)
06-09-2019 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 2295 by Faith
06-08-2019 10:31 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Too funny.

Why do you think that even if Mexico totally closed their southern border it was stop or even slow the immigration?

Are there immigration chains from Africa reaching southern Europe across the Mediterranean?

Are there water routes between Central America and South America and the US?

Sorry Faith but Trump is simply a fool, willfully ignorant and a conman whose only support is the willfully ignorant who wish to be conned and are totally divorced from reality.


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ringo
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Message 2306 of 2371 (854516)
06-09-2019 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2291 by Faith
06-08-2019 9:11 PM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Faith writes:

... Llbeftists....


Years ago - it might have been the 1972 federal election - we had a political ad that showed a man putting up a billboard, "Lib."

Then there was another shot of another man putting up, "tive."

Then another shot of the first man, "Liber."

Then another shot of the second man, "vative."

Then finally, a wide shot that showed both men working on the same billboard, "Libervative."

The joke, in case you don't get it, is that both Liberals and Conservatives are too conservative.


All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Faith
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Message 2307 of 2371 (854538)
06-10-2019 3:30 AM
Reply to: Message 2305 by jar
06-09-2019 9:29 AM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
Well, we know those huge caravans come up through Mexico's southern border so stopping those should accomplish a big reduction in the flood of illegals into the US. If there are other sources so what, they need to be dealt with too. But your implication that stopping the caravans accomplishes nothing is obviously wrong.
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Heathen
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Message 2308 of 2371 (854539)
06-10-2019 7:42 AM


Tariffs and willful ignorance
I Looked up willful ignorance in an encyclopedia, it gave me a summary of this conversation:

JonF writes:

There are now reports that the deal "consists largely of actions that Mexico had already promised to take in prior discussions with the United States over the past several months."


Faith writes:

I heard yesterday about Mexico stopping caravans at their southern border because of Trump's threat of a tariff


Theodoric writes:

This was all agreed to months ago


Faith writes:

Looks to me llke he knew what he was doing and that Mexico would stop the flood of illegal immigrants because of the threat of the tariff


Dr Jones* writes:

but these agreements were made months ago, before the threat of the tariffs.


Faith writes:

Whatever, who cares. If it took tariffs, fine with me.


Theodoric writes:

The agreements happened before the tariff threats.


Dr Jones* writes:

the agreements happened before the threat


Faith writes:

It was the tariffs that did it apparently

breathtaking... just breathtaking...

Edited by Heathen, : No reason given.


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Theodoric
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Message 2309 of 2371 (854540)
06-10-2019 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 2308 by Heathen
06-10-2019 7:42 AM


Re: Tariffs and willful ignorance
Trolls do as trolls do.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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PaulK
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Message 2310 of 2371 (854543)
06-10-2019 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 2307 by Faith
06-10-2019 3:30 AM


Re: Can the right handle winning?
quote:

Well, we know those huge caravans come up through Mexico's southern border so stopping those should accomplish a big reduction in the flood of illegals into the US.

By which you really mean “stop refugees trying to legally enter the country”. Of course the US has form in that area:
Smithsonian Magazine


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