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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How would you be able to determine any of that without stopping and temporarily detaining them? And no one is saying people coming into the country should not be temporarily detain, but it can be done on a humane productive way.
If we're going to be consistent the same should apply with anyone flying into the United States. People aren't screened for contagious diseases upon disembarking from planes. But it does require a passport and a visa to know who is entering and leaving the U.S. And one of the conditions for a visa is that the person has been inoculated for a variety of contagious diseases. So we do apply the same standards. We require every one applying for a visa to provide medical records including a chest xray, current checkup, tests for TB and Syphilis and record of inoculations. They are also at least temporarily detained while everything is checked.
Also, if the allegations of maltreatment are even half as bad as the media coverage states, I'm all for reformation of that immediately. Conditions are actually worse than reported. As I posted above, the US Government tries to make it as cruel and horrific as possible. For example even when people are released it is done in as cruel a method as possible. There is no coordination with those NGOs trying to help, instead the people are all herded onto buses and dumped as a mass without warning outside the local bus station.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
You really should understand the subject matter before you speak.
quote:Obtaining Asylum in the United States | USCIS That would be the U.S. Government saying that. There is no way to apply for asylum abroad. That is not how it works.PolitiFact | No, immigrants cannot apply for asylum at U.S. embassies or consulates abroad quote: You should really research those alt-right talking points before you post them.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Seeking asylum is going to an embassy and filling out paperwork, not crossing the border undetected and living in hiding.
Nope. Where did you get such an incredibly wrong idea? One cannot apply for asylum at a US Embassy. One may apply for asylum at a legal port of entry or anywhere inside the US (regardless of whether one is here legally or not).
8 U.S. Code 1158. Asylum quote:
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Fox News Airs Selectively Edited Clip to Blame Antifa For Hammer Fight With Proud Boys
quote: I disapprove of antifa's tactics. I am also on the side of truth. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
I disapprove of antifa's tactics. What tactics are those?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
They endorse violent confrontation, insofar as antifa is a coherent organization.
Antifa - Wikipedia(United_States)
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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So they confront the fascists' on their own ground, using the fascists' own tactics?
Punch a Nazi in the nose tactics? Would the world have better luck if we all linked arms and sang Kumbaya while the right continues to propagate the philosophy of racial and political hatred and encourages mass murders? What is the alternative? Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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I myself am done letting fascists hurt and kill people. Sitting back and hoping they are nice is a failed tactic. They hit me or anyone else I hit back.
Rise up.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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In the news today, this is from the NYT: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds Over Abortion Restrictions
I have just donated to Planned Parenthood: Donate to Planned Parenthood --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's a great solution. The government shouldn't be funding abortions with money paid in by people who object to abortion as killing an innocent human being, but citizens should be free to donate to such killings to their heart's content.
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kjsimons Member Posts: 822 From: Orlando,FL Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Faith, are you totally ignorant of the fact that the government is already not paying for abortions. Planned Parenthood is objecting to the fact that they aren't even allowed to tell patients about where to get an abortion (non government paid) if they take any federal money. Please educate yourself about his and pretty much everything else.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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That's a great solution. The government shouldn't be funding abortions with money paid in by people who object to abortion as killing an innocent human being, but citizens should be free to donate to such killings to their heart's content. Should that same reasoning apply to funding the U.S. military/industrial complex? Iran shot down a $200M drone. Apparently that was a spy drone, not a weaponized drone, but isn't there a better way to spend $200M? I object to the government funding so many of these ultra-expensive military toys. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn’t know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Moose, I love this!
I object to Trump. Maybe we should stop funding the White House for the next couple years!Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Hey, maybe I can earmark all the taxes I pay to Planned Parenthood!
It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So where do they get their funding for abortions? I thought they were funded by the government. I'm very happy to hear it if they are not.
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