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JonF
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Message 2686 of 5796 (861374)
08-20-2019 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2684 by Faith
08-20-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Great rant. Full of right wing bullshit.
Fscism and communism are polar opposites.
What about the white supremacists who acknowledge that they are white supremacists?
Hey, your nut job pal Mark Taylor is on the story:
He accuses Ruth Bader Ginsburg and John Roberts of being pedophiles. God told him that Trump is destined to replace five justices on the Supreme Court. Evidence? We don't need any steenkin' evidence. You gonna question God
Sound at SoundCloud Widget#

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Faith 
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Message 2687 of 5796 (861376)
08-20-2019 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 2686 by JonF
08-20-2019 3:34 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Of course, you and PaulK just echo AZPaul with the same scary upside down rhetoric.
I never heard of any "Mark Taylor." Just the usual false accusation to misidentify the people to be punched in the nose I guess.
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JonF
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Message 2688 of 5796 (861379)
08-20-2019 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 2687 by Faith
08-20-2019 3:38 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Didn't you recommend his book a few days ago? He's a ultra-right-wing firefighter turned prophet. Has a radio show. 100% nuts.
I didn't echo anything. But...
Do you know that fascism and communism are polar opposites?
What about the white supremacists who acknowledge that they are white supremacists? Like David Duke? David Duke.com. The audio titled "Dr Duke & Dr Slattery Expose the Ultra-Racist, anti-White, anti-Palestinian, Pro-Zionist Faceberg anti-Free Speech Tyrants!" (It will try to download a bunch of Flash files on every page). Some nice quotes :
"Our clear goal must be the advancement of the white race and separation of the white and black races. This goal must include freeing of the American media and government from subservient Jewish interests."
"As for America and the rest of European world, I want to live in a nation that reflects my traditions and values, and I do not want my people to become a minority in the nations my own forefathers built. Interestingly, that is same goal that most Israelis and most Jews who support Israel endorse for the Jewish state."
He adores Trump.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2689 of 5796 (861380)
08-20-2019 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2684 by Faith
08-20-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
You would punch me in the nose though I'm no Nazi.
Of course I wouldn't punch you in the nose, Love. Except verbally.
Living in the upside-down all the time has got to be hard enough without a bloody nose.
The Fascism is on the Left; Antifa are the fascists.
No Antifa is not fascist. They are anti-fascist. It's right there in the name.
And being anti-fascist does not mean Maoist or Stalinist or Democrat.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Faith 
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Message 2690 of 5796 (861381)
08-20-2019 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 2688 by JonF
08-20-2019 4:03 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY MARK TAYLOR.
ABE: I REJECT THE WHOLE "PROPHECY" MOVEMENT IN THE CHURCHES TODAY SO IF THAT'S WHAT HE CALLS HIMSELF I'M AGAINST HIM FOR THAT REASON FOR STARTERS.
I RECOMMENDED A BOOK TITLED "UNFREEDOM OF THE PRESS" BY MARK LEVIN. HE'S A CONSTITUTIONALIST CONSERVATIVE LAWYER WHO ISN'T RELIGIOUS.
PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. IF I'M GOING TO BE PUNCHED IN THE NOSE FOR WRONG REASONS LET THE WRONG REASONS AT LEAST BE THE RIGHT WRONG REASONS.
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Faith 
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Message 2691 of 5796 (861382)
08-20-2019 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 2689 by AZPaul3
08-20-2019 4:08 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
ANTIFA ARE EVIL VIOLENT LEFTIST FASCISTS.

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Faith 
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Message 2692 of 5796 (861384)
08-20-2019 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2689 by AZPaul3
08-20-2019 4:08 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
I don't want any word-fists bashing my nose either falsely calling me a Nazi and all the rest of the Leftist hate speech.
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Faith 
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Message 2693 of 5796 (861385)
08-20-2019 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2688 by JonF
08-20-2019 4:03 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
There are very few white supremacists around and they've never had any political clout.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 195 days)
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Message 2694 of 5796 (861386)
08-20-2019 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 2693 by Faith
08-20-2019 4:34 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
But they sure have a body count.
Antifa: 0

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Faith 
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Message 2695 of 5796 (861387)
08-20-2019 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 2694 by JonF
08-20-2019 5:03 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
PLEASE APOLOGIZE FOR ACCUSING ME OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS MARK TAYLOR I've NEVER HEARD OF.
Antifa have beat people up and left them in the streets. They DO have a body count. They have an intimidation count, interfering with others' right to assembly and free speech. They are violent leftist thugs that should not be allowed on the streets. They are today's brownshirts.
White supremacists hardly even exist today, but the Left loves to pretend everybody who disagrees with them is a white supremacist to create a justification for punching people in the nose who oppose their ideology..
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JonF
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Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 2696 of 5796 (861390)
08-20-2019 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 2695 by Faith
08-20-2019 5:09 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Sorry, I did get the name wrong.
If you want to count injured antifa has some but white supremacists still beat them hollow.
We tend to call a spade a spade. The great majority of people who oppose us are not white supremacists. Sean Hannity and Moscow Mitch McConnell, for example. The white supremacists, however, are white supremacists and are easily identifiable.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2697 of 5796 (861392)
08-20-2019 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2691 by Faith
08-20-2019 4:17 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
ANTIFA ARE EVIL VIOLENT LEFTIST FASCISTS.
I looked it up. EVIL VIOLENT LEFTIST FASCISTS is the definition of Republican.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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dwise1
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Message 2698 of 5796 (861393)
08-20-2019 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 2665 by Faith
08-19-2019 6:35 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
That's a great solution. The government shouldn't be funding abortions with money paid in by people who object to abortion as killing an innocent human being, but citizens should be free to donate to such killings to their heart's content.
That's a commonly expressed sentiment, but as JonF pointed out in Message 2680, money is "fungible" and once money raised for different purpose go into a common pot, then there is no longer any way to tell which money was raised for which purpose. IOW, there is no practical way to do what you wish.
The only way I can think of would be to maintain separate pots of money, each with money raised for different purposes. Anyone who has had to deal with retirement finances should know the cardinal rule always keeping your pre-tax and post-tax moneys separate: your 401(k) and IRAs are pre-tax and your regular savings is post-tax, so you cannot deposit your 401(k) into your savings account and then take it out to put it into an IRA because you have mixed your moneys together and no one can tell anymore which is which.
Another example of keep moneys from different sources for different purposes separate would be the payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare. Those taxes are raised for those specific purposes and are used for those purposes. Any of those moneys left over after having paid all the benefits go into a special trust fund, a separate one for Social Security and another for Medicare, such that those funds can only be used to pay for the programs' benefits in the future.
The general fund is how it's done now, with all revenues going into a common pot where all the different moneys commingle and any trace of special purposes or restrictions are lost. Even if you were allowed to specify what you don't want your own tax dollars to be spent on, once it goes into that common pot there is no way to fulfill your wishes.
So, the only way I can think of for you to get your wish is for each and every item supported by government spending be given its own personal revenue source that can only be used for that specific purpose. Not only would that be an accounting and administrative nightmare, but required funding levels would have to be determined at the time that tax law is created. Underfunding would starve the programs, defeating their purpose. Overfunding would result in a localized surplus that cannot be used in any other manner, especially not be diverted to any underfunded program (since that would cause your filthy lucre to go to something you disapprove of -- remember that even though you approved of it going into that one pot, once there it commingled with the money of others who would approve of diverting this surplus going to that underfunded program that you disapprove of; IOW, we'd be back to the same old problem again). At least in our current system of a one-pot general fund (Social Security and Medicare still being kept separate) there is the ability to budget that general fund and adjust spending where it's needed, though at the expense of the purity of your own filthy lucre.
And as has been pointed out to you already, government money is not and cannot be used to fund abortions. By federal law. Been that way for years.

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Faith 
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Message 2699 of 5796 (861395)
08-20-2019 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 2681 by AZPaul3
08-20-2019 1:41 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Curiosity has overcome my aversion to talking to someone who wants to punch me in the nose and thinks of me as a Nazi and a racist: you said you are an old hippy "with the hair" etc. and I pictured you with long thin gray hair NOW, balding in the front, with a center peninsula of thin gray hair. And you're somewhere in your seventies? Yes curiosity killed the cat but anyway. Are you willing to confirm or deny this image?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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From: Nevada, USA
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Message 2700 of 5796 (861396)
08-20-2019 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2698 by dwise1
08-20-2019 5:48 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
kjsimons called me ignorant for not knowing that the government does not pay for PP's abortions and I was responding to that. What do you say to kjsimons?

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