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Faith
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Message 2746 of 2838 (861452)
08-21-2019 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2745 by ringo
08-21-2019 2:26 PM


Re: The Left has to stop the false accusations
The context was "xenophobia" which refers to the whole pool of potential immigrants.

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Faith
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Message 2747 of 2838 (861453)
08-21-2019 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 2741 by AZPaul3
08-21-2019 1:06 PM


Re: I feel pretty, Oh, so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and bright!
So there is no implication of the beard's being fake.

Sorry about the allergies, sounds like a bad case.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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PaulK
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Message 2748 of 2838 (861454)
08-21-2019 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 2746 by Faith
08-21-2019 2:30 PM


Re: The Left has to stop the false accusations
quote:
The context was "xenophobia" which refers to the whole pool of potential immigrants

So basically you are arguing that all the “good” immigrants go to countries other than the US. If that’s true then there is something wrong with the US.


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ringo
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Message 2749 of 2838 (861455)
08-21-2019 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2746 by Faith
08-21-2019 2:30 PM


Re: The Left has to stop the false accusations
Faith writes:

The context was "xenophobia" which refers to the whole pool of potential immigrants.


Trump referred specifically to the ones they "send".

"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
-- Woody Guthrie

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Faith
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Message 2750 of 2838 (861456)
08-21-2019 2:48 PM
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08-21-2019 2:46 PM


Re: The Left has to stop the false accusations
And "the ones they send" wouldn't amount to xenophobia.

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ringo
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Message 2751 of 2838 (861457)
08-21-2019 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2750 by Faith
08-21-2019 2:48 PM


Re: The Left has to stop the false accusations
Faith writes:

And "the ones they send" wouldn't amount to xenophobia.


Xenophobia refers to outsiders. Immigrants are certainly outsiders.

"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
-- Woody Guthrie

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JonF
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Message 2752 of 2838 (861463)
08-21-2019 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 2743 by Faith
08-21-2019 2:20 PM


Re: The Left has to stop the false accusations
Obviously he was talking about somewhere between MOST and ALL migrants. He wasn't even FUCKING SURE that some of them were good people. He could only ASSUME that SOME (definitely not meaning MOST) were good people.

What body count? We were discussing this yesterday and you've forgotten already. Very convenient memory.

Nonetheless, I documented them down to the individual incident level in a message you hadn't seen when you wrote that. I can't wait to see how you spin that. Probably your oft-used "better no facts at all rather than your facts".

ABE Ah, I was pretty close. But I call that a miss.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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JonF
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Message 2753 of 2838 (861465)
08-21-2019 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 2744 by Faith
08-21-2019 2:23 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
Ideology doesn't change facts. These facts are extremely well documented.

As I said, under the map on the web site there's a list of incidents with plenty of detail. The first one is:

quote:
Extremist Murder
Terrorist Plot/Attack
4/27/2019
Poway, CA
Right Wing (White Supremacist)
White supremacist John T. Earnest allegedly opened fire at a synagogue in Poway, California, killing one person and injuring three before fleeing. He was reportedly emulating white supremacist Brenton Tarrant's killing spree in New Zealand in March 2019.

Go wild. Check out each one. I admit there are a very few in which the right-wing connection isn't strongly established, but not enough to change the overwhelming trend.

BTW, none of the incidents were labeled "terrorist". Please try to keep up.

Every one of them made the news. Are you telling me you didn't hear about the synagogue shooting in April?

(Obviously they're a little behind. El Paso adds 22 more on the right wing tally, and Dayton adds nine in the one incident by a liberal).

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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PaulK
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Message 2754 of 2838 (861468)
08-21-2019 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2753 by JonF
08-21-2019 4:03 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
Also, a number of right-wingers have been arrested before they can carry out attacks. Most recently this guy in New Jersey

In his car he had

semi-automatic assault handgun, a 9mm semi-automatic assault pistol with a high-capacity magazine, a loaded 9mm pistol, two barrels sawed off from a double-barrel shotgun, a sight for an assault rifle and a stripped AR-15 bolt carrier

In his home the police found

14 more firearms, including assault rifles, shotguns, and handguns, authorities said. They also found four high-capacity magazines, ammunition, a grenade launcher, silencer tubes and a ballistics vest,

And

Inside both the vehicle and the home, police found clothing and bumper stickers with white supremacist and Neo-Nazi slogans along with a document “containing racist material and purporting to be an instruction manual for owning a slave,”

As well as drugs.


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Faith
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Message 2755 of 2838 (861469)
08-21-2019 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2753 by JonF
08-21-2019 4:03 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
I can't possibly check out any of that, but of course as usual I don't trust anything anyone on the Left says. I AM sorry but the cynicism is way too deep. If you're right then you're right but I'm not going to be able to figure it out. It's not that I care one way or the other, it's just that I know you all love to hate the right and facts can get skewed by bias and I'm in no position to sort it all out. Since I get called all the PC names for what seem to me to be uncontroversial comments I don't have any motivation to delve into a long list of supposed right wing murders tallied by a left wing organization and posted by a leftist. I do sincerely apologize, it's just beyond me and I don't care a whole lot.

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JonF
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Message 2756 of 2838 (861470)
08-21-2019 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 2755 by Faith
08-21-2019 7:20 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
Right, you love your bubble of lies and reality just doesn't matter.

Get a friend or friends to help. Hire someone to set up your computer for better viewing. I'm not a big fan of Best Buy's Geek Squad, but that should be within their capabilities.

Until then don't make any claims about right-wing violence.


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xongsmith
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Message 2757 of 2838 (861471)
08-21-2019 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2755 by Faith
08-21-2019 7:20 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
Faith throws in the towel:
it's just beyond me and I don't care a whole lot.

well then we shouldn't care a whole lot anymore about you, Faith.

sad. nobody's forcing you to post on EvC.

obviously your vision problems are seriously impairing your participation, as they understandably would.

so if you want to quit, so be it. you will be missed.


"I'd rather be an American than a Trump Supporter."

- xongsmith, 5.7d


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Faith
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Message 2758 of 2838 (861472)
08-21-2019 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 2756 by JonF
08-21-2019 7:27 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
What a WONDERFUL job of motivating me.

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Theodoric
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Message 2759 of 2838 (861473)
08-21-2019 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 2758 by Faith
08-21-2019 7:31 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
Go take a flying leap. I will not miss you. I do not suffer fools and racists gladly.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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JonF
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Message 2760 of 2838 (861474)
08-21-2019 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 2758 by Faith
08-21-2019 7:31 PM


Re: terrorist attacks
What a WONDERFUL job of motivating me.

Nothing can motivate you to have any interest in reality. You've made that abundantly clear.

I appreciate the softer tone of your last few messages. But your mind is still locked up tight

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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