The Right Side of the News

I tend to trust the NY Times and other media sources, though I do listen to the conservatives also. I am not convinced that Liberals are evil any more than Conservatives, but I do see evil in both partisans. I also realize that there is good in the world, despite Tangle seeing me as miserable and wanting out. What he doesn't understand is that I'm just bummed at getting old.

I always feel the need to correct this idea that I'm talking about people when I'm trying to keep the focus on an ideology. The Left comprises the ideology of Marxism and Marxism is entirely at odds with the essential nature of America. As for trusting the NYTimes, you'd have to know its history of misrepresentation/fake news in order to see why it shouldn't be trusted. Again I recommend the book by Mark Levin,
"Unfreedom of the Press" whenever you think you might want to read it and can afford it.

I suggest you read it again: White House provided transcript of the phone conversation between Trump and Zelensky. The topic is still Trump's request that the Ukraine perform a favor for him. Trump requests a favor, first mentioning Crowdstrike (the "secret server spirited away to the Ukraine" conspiracy theory), Zelenskyy responds, then Trump continues the favor request, which includes digging up dirt on the Bidens. I didn't mention Mulvaney, but Mulvaney said one thing, then contradicted himself and said another hours later. He couldn't have been right both times. There is no "ONGOING investigation into the Democrats' interference in the 2016 election." There's only Trump's fantasies and Giuliani's rogue operations. No, it was not a completely separate part of the conversation. Trump requested a favor about Crowdstrike, Zelenskyy basically said "Sure," then Trump requested more favors of cooperation with Giuliani and Barr in digging up dirt on the Bidens. Again, there is no such investigation. Ukraine had a part in the imaginary Democratic campaign interference only in the imaginations of Trump, Giuliani and Barr.You can continue arguing as you are in this venue for as long as you like, but most people understand plain English when they see it, and what has become public of the testimony of Yovanovitch, Sondland, Kent, McKinley and Hill before House committees largely backs up the plain English interpretation of the Trump/Zelenskyy conversation.--Percy

The question is not about Leftist ideology. The question I have is about Right-wing conservative ideology. WWJD? Would Jesus approve of living in a prosperous free society or would He say that his people were being misled through seduction vs oppression and that both ideologies were at odds with Him?

The topic is Gregg Jarrett's book claiming the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt in which the whole thing was drummed up out of thin air to try to catch Trump in something. Your concern about right wing ideology is not relevant in this context.

Well, you deny everything I know to be true so there's no point in continuing this. Just wait and see what happens in the end.

Well I cant believe that it was all drummed up out of thin air. Mueller may be ideologically different from Trump but he appears to have integrity. At best he may be guilty of personal obsession in order to make a mark for himself in the world.

You accept the left wing POV, believe the left wing media, don't know what the right has been saying about this or what the book's evidence would be, so I guess there's nothing more to say about it here.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I consider all media. I don't consciously pick sides. This gets back to Source vs Content. I don't hunt for the right source. I consider the content of several media presentations. Are you saying that I ignore the conservative POV?

This whole proclamation about *knowing* that something is true is as offensive to other Christians as it likely is to unbelievers. I firmly believe that God gave us a brain, but He didn't simply preload it with divine intuition. If He did, why am I not knowing the same things you are knowing?We live in a world of competing ideologies. The war that we are presently in, what I call spiritual war, is a war of ideologies. When you stick to the Bible and scripture you are harder to refute and I find myself agreeing with you most of the time, but when you go off into politics, I feel as if you jump on the secular bandwagon of conservatism and believe the sound bites that the radio tells you over and over again.I even question the apologists, so I see no reason why you wouldn't question the conservative sources as much as you do the liberal ones unless you believe that the liberals are evil and that the conservatives all love jesus. (which they dont...most of them dont even know Him)

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The topic is Gregg Jarrett's book claiming the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt in which the whole thing was drummed up out of thin air to try to catch Trump in something

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Well that’s a lie for a start.

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Your concern about right wing ideology is not relevant in this context.

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I think that the Satanic ideology of the Right is very relevant.

All the various events Jarrett's book discusses about how the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt with no justification whatever, have been discussed to death already on the conservative media, and the interview I heard with Jarrett makes his book sound like it will be a very thorough discussion of all those elements.His subtitle is "The Greatest Mass Delusion in American Political History." That is how we on the right see it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

We are not discussing ideologiest here, we are discussing the facts of what was said in Trump's phone call to the Ukrainian Preseident.

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All the various events Jarrett's book discusses about how the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt with no justification whatever, have been discussed to death already on the conservative media, and the interview I heard with Jarrett makes his book sound like it will be a very thorough discussion of all those elements.

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Yawn. The justifications are well known. Therefore the claim that there was no justification is false.

May the truth come out.