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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Well, Charles Manson wasn't "innocent" the day before he was charged, was he?
Imagine that, the Democrats have even taken away that fundamental American position that we are innocent until proven guilty. Presumed innocent does not mean the accused has committed no crime. It just means he hasn't been convicted yet.
Faith writes:
You're old enough to understand tenses. He has not been impeached in the past but that does not mean he will never be impeached in the future, nor does it mean he will never be charged with a crime after he leaves office.
But as a matter of fact he WOULD have been charged with something if he were guilty of any of it... Faith writes:
You can't possibly know that.
The Democrats are just making it all up as they go along....
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So you have nothing except some wild ass claims. Show evidence that Maxine Waters became a millionaire because she was in Congress. I will give you a slight hint of where to start looking. Her husband.
Your right wing sources are lying to you. You rally need to retract your attack on Maxine Waters. It is untrue.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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But she's one of THOSE kind of people!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If he has done anything criminal he would have been charged with it already.
As for impeachment, they are probably going to go ahead with it despite the fact that there is nothing to justify it, no treason, no high crimes and misdemeanors, nothing. They lie through their teeth, they have meetings behind closed doors which is not the American way, it should be out in the open, there should be legal procedures, due process, protection of the defendant's rights. There should be opportunities for the defendant to answer and defend himself, there should be actual criminal or at least clear charges of some sort to justify their actions, clearly stated charges on paper, but they are acting like a kangaroo court, hiding their methods, trying to concoct something out of the public eye and out of the range of legal action against themselves. This is all a huge travesty and destructive of all forms of justice in this country. As my side keeps pointing out, they are trying to pull off a coup, they are acting like a Stalinist court.
AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF SPINELESS WIMPS. THEY SHOULD BE LOUDLY CALLING OUT THIS TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE, DENOUNCING IT, TAKING LEGAL MEASURES AGAINST IT. And it's pretty typical that you think he could be impeached or charged with a crime in the future although there isn't the slightest justification for it now. Sure and you could also be charged with a crime int he future. But what this means is what has been going on all along: there has never been any justification for any of the supposed investigations, it's all been a fishing expedition to try and find something to pin on him, and an extreme violation of all legal rights and just plain decency against this President. The entire conservative right wing has known since Trump got elected that the Democrats are just making it up as they go along, doesn't take any special acumen on my part. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sounds like a description of what the Left is doing to Trump. I gave you a report on what I heard and that's that.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So just because you "heard" something it is true? All you do is post right wing lies and personal attacks. You accuse Maxine Waters of getting rich off her position but you have no evidence to back it up but you heard it. Where did you hear it? They lied.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
If he has done anything criminal he would have been charged with it already.
how many times do you have to be reminded of the DoJ policy that a sitting president can't be indicted?
it should be out in the open, there should be legal procedures, due process, protection of the defendant's rights. There should be opportunities for the defendant to answer and defend himself, there should be actual criminal or at least clear charges of some sort to justify their actions, clearly stated charges on paper
show me in the constitution where all of this is required for an impeachment inquiry. This is not a criminal trial. This is currently an investigation to determine what charges are justified. Remember that the actual trial for an impeachment happens in the senate, this is essentially the investigation and charging portion.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Faith writes: they have meetings behind closed doors which is not the American way, it should be out in the open, there should be legal procedures, due process, protection of the defendant's rights. So, you think that the American way is for the defendant to sit in on all the police interrigations involving his case? Because that is the stage we are at right now, THE EVIDENCE GATHERING STAGE, NOT THE EVIDENCE PRESENTING STAGE. The defendant will get to question witnesses and all the other stuff during the trial. Why don't you know this shit, Miss Know It All? Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5947 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Yeah. Remember Art Linkletter? He had a TV show, "Kids will Say The Darndest Things". Great show, really funny. He was really good!
We could now create the same kind of show: "Republicans will Say the Darndest Things." And Ron Johnson is just yet another example of that. Quid pro quo doesn't matter that much. The actual violation is soliciting contributions to your campaign. Done and admitted to by the White House, so an entirely done deal. Quid pro quo is just icing on the cake as yet another violation of the law. And quid pro quo has been repeatedly verified by multiple sources including Mick Mulvaney and the "Three Amigos" (Gordon Sondland, Kurt Volker, and Rick Perry) who worked closely with Giuliani's shadow diplomacy that implicates everybody. Your selective Republicans can appear and bloviate all they want to while spinning up their lies. What about the TRUTH, not your lies.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's what they said the day before Charles Manson was charged. It's nonsense.
If he has done anything criminal he would have been charged with it already.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You can tell" me that all you want, it's a shuck and a fraud. Clinton and Nixon were both charged with crimes from the Special Counsel. The only reason Trump wasn't is that they found none.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
MAY THE TRUTH COME OUT.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
Clinton and Nixon were both charged with crimes from the Special Counsel
what were the specific criminal charges brought against Nixon and Clinton? What criminal code violations were they charged with? in what court?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
This is a Kangaroo Court in violation of all normal legal procedings. No impeachment has ever been conducted in such a way.
His lawyers should be told what is going on and alloiwed to prepare their defense. That is not being granted to them. They are locked up because there is nothing they can find against Trump but they figure eventually they will. Stupid because that's what they figured all along, all through the Mueller investigation, and they have never found anything although they keep lying and saying they have to create a false public image. Schiff has lied over and over claiming they have evidence they don't have, claiming there is more than enough to impeach him and send him to jail. It has never materialized. It is all made up. MAY THE TRUTH COME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Present the charges brought against them by the special counsel. I think your source is lying to you. Again.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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