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Faith
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Message 3406 of 3771 (866307)
11-09-2019 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 3405 by dwise1
11-09-2019 5:03 PM


Re: The Ukraine Investigation was NOT official
GOP Values: Hypocrisy, Corruption, Greed, *****, Cheating, Voter Suppression, Election *****, Conspiring with the Enemy

Everything you impute to the GOP is really what Democrats do.

MAY ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT, soon, Lord, please.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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dwise1
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Message 3407 of 3771 (866308)
11-09-2019 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3406 by Faith
11-09-2019 5:07 PM


Re: The Ukraine Investigation was NOT official
Oh, the truth is indeed coming out, day after day after day. Haven't you been reading the transcripts?

The public hearings start next week, so the public will hear the truth for themselves.


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PaulK
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Message 3408 of 3771 (866310)
11-09-2019 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 3406 by Faith
11-09-2019 5:07 PM


Re: The Ukraine Investigation was NOT official
quote:
Everything you impute to the GOP is really what Democrats do.

By which you mean that the Republican’s falsely accuse the Democrats of doing.

quote:
MAY ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT, soon, Lord, please.

That isn’t what you want at all. We’ve seen your reactions to the truth coming out and they aren’t pretty.


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Faith
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Message 3409 of 3771 (866311)
11-09-2019 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 3407 by dwise1
11-09-2019 5:16 PM


Re: The Ukraine Investigation was NOT official
Incredible. The transcripts support Trump. What's been coming out "day after day" is Democrat lies, ever since before Trump took office. The real truth should come out in Barr and Durham and Horowitz's investigations. Though with the Dem ability to delude themselves it may be a while before it's recognized.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 3410 of 3771 (866314)
11-09-2019 6:51 PM


The Russia ****... to exonerate Hillary and frame Trump
I'm taking a look at a book I have on my Amazon PC Kindle page, The Russia ****, The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump by Gregg Jarrett. He starts right out in the Preface, An Insidious Abuse of Power, with this:

[In his 2018 book] Comey sermonizes about lies and ***** people. This is perversely ironic coming from a man who, more than anyone else, is responsible for the most notorious **** in modern American history.

As director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Comey launched a dilating investigation into Donald J. Trump in the summer of 2016. There was not a whiff of credible evidence to legally justify the probe. So, in a deception worthy of a solid street hustle, Comey labeled it a “counterintelligence matter.” The clever feint allowed for a covert ******** investigation in search of a crime, reversing and bastardizing the legal process.

This is what abuse of power looks ****.

For the better part of two years, the FBI, U.S. intelligence apparatus, mainstream media, Democrats, and, eventually, ******* Counsel Robert Mueller, and his team of partisans peered furiously into every obscure corner and crevice for some proof that Trump “colluded” with Russia to steal the 2016 presidential election....


...But first, Comey and his confederates had to turn an even tougher trick by exculpating Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, from the sundry crimes she appeared to have committed by storing copious classified documents on her unauthorized private computer system at the Clinton homestead. Despite a subpoena to preserve her records, tens of thousands of government documents were deleted, her server wiped clean, and numerous devices destroyed. How exactly could the FBI circumvent the inevitable multicount indictments against Clinton for everything from obstruction of justice to mishandling of classified documents?

It would not be easy. ******** codes would have to be creatively reinterpretedor deliberately misconstrued. A grand jury must be avoided or diminished at all costs. But the Department of Justice would acquiesce since it was brimming with Clinton allies, especially Attorney General Loretta Lynch. Best of all, President Barack Obama had sent out the clarion call on national television that his chosen Democratic successor should not be prosecuted since she never “intended” to jeopardize national security, notwithstanding what he characterized as her “carelessness.”

Comey was instrumental to the scheme. He penned an “exoneration statement” well before the FBI interviewed seventeen key witnesses, including Clinton herself. Then he commandeered the authority of the attorney general in delivering his infamous pronouncement that no charges should be brought. No mention was ever made of another vexing FBI probe into whether Clinton had engaged in corrupt acts with the Russians by hanging the equivalent of a “for sale” sign on her office door as secretary of state. That investigation quietly vanished under the auspices of the Obama administration. Thus, there was never a serious examination of Clinton and the various laws she seemed to have plainly violated. The entire exercise was a preconceived ******* with a ************* outcome.

Evidence of the suspected scheme to protect Clinton from any ******** prosecution was divulged in a five-hundred-page report by the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, that was made public two weeks after The Russia **** went to print. In one of the more stunning revelations, Comey claimed he had no memory of the moment he decided—and put down in writing—that Clinton committed crimes....

I could go on and on of course, but someone is just going to come along and trash Jarrett without considering his evidence anyway.

But this is one of the books I was thinking of when I mentioned there is evidence of this whole ****/coup attempt against Trump by the Democrats since before he took office. I'll take a look at other books I have.

{Note to Percy: Do you really not mind destroying ordinary communication on your forum by disqualifying ordinary words? You aren't punishing me so much as punishing anyone who tries to read such a post. You say I used these words to denigrate people on the forum, but you haven't shown me how I did so. And besides they are ordinary words, they are not *********** words or profane words, they are ordinary words, and when you destroy them you destroy ordinary communication. Perhaps you might want to rethink your policy?}

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Theodoric
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Message 3411 of 3771 (866316)
11-09-2019 7:06 PM
Reply to: Message 3410 by Faith
11-09-2019 6:51 PM


Re: The Russia Hoax... to exonerate Hillary and frame Trump
I won't attack him, but I will present a thorough take down of his sycophantic bullshit and ****.
https://www.politifact.com/...ws-analysts-pro-trump-book-rus

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Faith
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Message 3412 of 3771 (866317)
11-09-2019 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 3411 by Theodoric
11-09-2019 7:06 PM


Re: The Russia ****... to exonerate Hillary and frame Trump
Politifact is known as an ideological propaganda tool. In any case you can't just post a bare link, you have to quote some part of it.

In any case what Barr, Durham and Horowitz have to say should support the book and show up the lies of Politifact.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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dwise1
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Message 3413 of 3771 (866318)
11-09-2019 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 3409 by Faith
11-09-2019 5:41 PM


Re: The Ukraine Investigation was NOT official
Incredible. The transcripts support Trump.

What the fuck are you talking about?

The summary of Trump's phone call (there is no actual transcript, unlike the actual transcripts from the congressional testimonies) has Trump admitting that he requested something of value (ie, dirt on Biden) from a foreign power; that alone details violation of federal law and amounts to a personal confession of guilt). That neither supports nor exonerates Trump.

The transcripts of the testimonies of Marie Yovanovitch, Fiona Hill, George Kent, Michael McKinley, William Taylor, Laura Cooper, Philip Reeker, LtCol Alexander S. Vindman, Tim Morrison, and Gordon D. Sondland all expose Trump's additional malfeasance of bribery/extortion in his scheme of trading military aid for actions intended to benefit himself personally and politically. They attest to an extended campaign over a period of months of pressuring the Ukrainian government and all attest to the additional issue of Trump imposing a quid pro quo condition of releasing congressionally mandated military aid to the Ukraine in exchange for actions intended to aid Trump politically.

Just how the fuck is that supposed to be supporting Trump?


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Theodoric
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Message 3414 of 3771 (866319)
11-09-2019 7:36 PM
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11-09-2019 7:26 PM


Faith does not actually read
Remember Faith does not actually read anything. She just listens to biased, partisan and fundie commentary. She has no idea what is actually in the transcripts. If you posted the actual transcripts she would claim she is unable to read them because of her poor eyesight.
****** gotta *****.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Faith
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Message 3415 of 3771 (866322)
11-09-2019 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3414 by Theodoric
11-09-2019 7:36 PM


Faith reads her own stuff, not yours
Yes I am reporting what I've heard about the transcripts from quite a few other people, and am probably not going to want to expose my bad eyes to much of anything that is offered in defense of your opposing point of view. So I request that you present your opposing point of view as succinctly, as briefly, as possible. Thank you.

I do however read things on my side because I consider it worth it to use my eyes for that purpose. It's my own personal judgment. Believe me, I do not expect the slightest sympathy from any of you, not the slightest allowance for anything I say or any of my explanations. I do what I choose to do, what seems the best avenue for the given situation. I know you enjoy blasting me for everything no matter what, however, you really aren't interested in why I do what I do. It is kind of a waste of time, though, since if at least you took my reasons into account the conversation wouldn't always be getting dragged into ********** side issues.

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dwise1
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Message 3416 of 3771 (866325)
11-09-2019 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 3415 by Faith
11-09-2019 8:40 PM


Re: Faith reads her own stuff, not yours
OK fine.

You love Russia and you hate America.

You love dictators and you hate the Constitution of the United States of America.

You love liies and you hate truth.

You love corruption and you hate honesty.

You love crime and criminals and you hate justice.

You love evil and you hate good.

Well, the truth is coming out and your evil side is going to lose.

And if your god is in favor of all the evil that you love, then fuck your evil god.

Edited by dwise1, : you love crime and criminals
your evil god


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dwise1
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Message 3417 of 3771 (866326)
11-09-2019 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 3406 by Faith
11-09-2019 5:07 PM


Re: The Ukraine Investigation was NOT official
You never did comment on the Lev and Igor Show. What is the Fake News Network telling you about them? Or about the Ukraine "drug deal" (as Michael Bolton calls it)?

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Faith
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Message 3418 of 3771 (866327)
11-09-2019 9:41 PM
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11-09-2019 9:04 PM


Re: Faith reads her own stuff, not yours
Remember I usually represent the opposite point of view from yours. And in this case all you've done is steal your list from the Right against he ****. All those statements apply to you, not me.

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dwise1
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Message 3419 of 3771 (866329)
11-09-2019 10:11 PM
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11-09-2019 9:41 PM


Re: Faith reads her own stuff, not yours
And you still have not said a single thing about what your Fake News Network has said about the Lev and Igor Show.

If you had any evidence on your side, you would be able to present it. Since you have no evidence on your side, all you can do it duck and dodge and obfuscate.

It's like Trump's frustration with the GOP. About a week ago he chastised them for only complaining about the process and not trying to defend him on the substance of the evidence. Well, there is no way to defend him on the substance of the evidence. In fact, a basic rule among prosecutors is that when the defense can only rail against the process, then that means that the defense has no actual defense. Trump's position is quite literally indefensible.

It is also very difficult for the Republicans to try to defend Trump using Trump's talking points, because those change very rapidly. There is no coherent defense coming out of the White House because that changes according to Trump's whims.

Along those lines, I do kind of like a summary of Lindsey Graham's latest line of Trump defense. There is no coherent defense coming out of the White House because it is so terminally disorganized and chaotic as to render that impossible. How could something as totally disorganized ever come up with an international scheme? So basically, Lindsey Graham is saying that Trump is incredibly incompetent, which is true. If Trump is so mentally incompetent as to not know that what he is doing is wrong, then shouldn't the 25th Amendment be invoked?

 
And, yes, you do indeed align yourself diametrically opposed to all that is good. That is what you do unapologetically. Get used to it as long as you remain on the Dark Side (which is Satan's side).


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Message 3420 of 3771 (866427)
11-11-2019 7:25 AM
Reply to: Message 3366 by Percy
11-07-2019 1:36 PM


Re: Another Insulting Trump Tweet
Continuing the Trump attack/insult counter, this tweet is from yesterday:

First, about what Trump retweets, for anyone who's forgotten who James O'Keefe is, he's a conservative activist who makes surreptitious tapes and then selectively edits them, caught red-handed doing just that at a meeting with a Planned Parenthood representative a couple years ago. Jesse Watters is a Fox News opinion commentator known for false and inaccurate claims.

Concerning Trump's statement, obviously journalistic standards for the mainstream media are the same now as before Trump took office. And Trump is very confused when he claims "we no longer have Freedom of the Press." His actual complaint, which he seems to have forgotten here, is that the press is too free, because he can't seem to stop them from bringing to light and reporting on his misconduct. What Trump actually wants is a press that fawns over his every move and defends his every crime. In other words, he wants all the media to be like Fox News.

Current attacks/insults score: Trump: 6; Democrats: 0

--Percy


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