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Nothing Schiff said is in the transcript, it was all made up.

We already know that Marc’s original meaning is what he wants it to say, even if the actual text clearly disagrees. I got a good laugh about him calling himself an originalist. And this latest silliness is nearly as funny.

Faith writes: You do know what a parody is, don't you?

On what grounds are you calling it inaccurate. It's parody, not a reenactment or a quote.SNL had a parody of the recent NATO summit in their cold open: This parody shows a lunchroom when there was no lunchroom at NATO, and Macron, Trudeau and Johnson were not palling around like the cool guys and telling Trump he couldn't sit at the cool guys table. Trump wasn't even present in the video at the NATO summit where Trudeau was speaking to Macron and Johnson. But the SNL skit was parody, not a reenactment. It makes the point that foreign leaders regard Trump as a joke. Your post doesn't reflect an understanding of what parody is. Cover for him how? By writing headlines like https://www.washingtonpost.com/...errors-impeachment-inquiry from the Washington Post and Just a moment... from Mediaite? He received a lot of criticism in the mainstream media for acting in a way inappropriate and undignified for a House Committee Chairman. I thought it was funny but inappropriate. Huh? It was a crime boss style riff on the transcript. Anyone who's seen old crime movies can pull that off right off the top of their head.By the way, here's another Fox News headline saying Trump "fired back" and made "fiery remarks, so please, let us hear no more claims about the mainstream media mischaracterizing Trump's temperament. He's impulsive, reactive, temperamental, emotional and vengeful: Trump fires back at 'corrupt' Schiff, 'phony' mainstream media during fiery remarks on impeachment | Fox News So when Trump calls Schiff a "maniac" and "a deranged human being" and "a very sick man" and a liar and that he deserves to be in jail, that's justified because of insults directed at Trump after his 2015 announcement over four years ago? I only have one guy I'm tracking insults/attacks from, and that's Trump. I'm not deep searching the web for Trump attacks/insults, they're all right there in the headlines from all news media, including Fox News usually. If these attacks/insults were actually instigated by attacks/insults from Democrats then they should be very easy for you to find, so find them. I don't think the U.S. founders would agree with you that the mainstream press is controlled by a single political party. Well, yes, that's what Trump does, so that's what the mainstream media reports on. My "'splainin'" comment was just a riff on I Love Lucy to indicate that you'd already told us all we needed to know, but thank you for the additional clarification about your homophobia. But I don't know of their existence. I know you keep claiming they exist, but you can't seem to produce any examples. Every attempt you've made has been rebutted nine ways from Sunday. From here on I'm ignoring everything you say about news broadcasts like ABC World News Tonight and Fox News unless you provide video of the broadcasts (which is available) and a timestamp. Your past record of unreliability calls all your unsupported claims into question. Oh, good grief, more unsupported accusations. Ignoring. But unlike you, I can prove what I say is true. For any particular adjective you'd like to challenge I'll have no trouble finding a post from me documenting Trump displaying that exact trait. Perhaps you'd like to start with "cruel" (treatment of illegal immigrants at the border). How about "vengeful" (so many examples, I'll chose just one, tweeting insults at Yavanovich while she was testifying). Maybe you prefer "misogynistic" (can objections to this even be raised?). Then there's "racist" (Charlottesville). And "scheming" (the plot to force Ukraine to investigate a domestic political rival). Pick your adjective, they're all easily proven. You're the one watching ABC World News Tonight every night, not me. If you can't prove what you say, don't say it. So even Fox News isn't an acceptable source for you? You're going to have to tell me your supposedly legitimate unbiased news sources. ABC World News Tonight averages about 8.6 million viewers nightly, which is about 3.4% of the adult population. It is not "the only news source for many Americans." Like I said, the reason you say so many incorrect things, nearly everything you write, is because you never take the trouble to check whether what you think has any factual basis. You need serious help with logic and analysis. Trump sought to pressure Ukraine to make a public announcement of an investigation of Biden corruption to hurt Joe Biden's chances of obtaining the Democratic nomination. That doesn't suddenly become untrue if Biden doesn't become the Democratic nominee. We only have your word for that. Prove it. Since 3.4% of American adults watch ABC World News Tonight, that means that there's probably a couple other people here who also watch it. Can anybody out there back Marc up on this? Did ABC World News Tonight give Biden a free pass on the town meeting where he called an older gentleman a "damn liar?" Or maybe, Marc, you could provide a link and a timestamp for that particular broadcast? All their broadcasts are available online. I think that they intended for Congress to properly deal with a president who commits high crimes and misdemeanors no matter the degree to which he's bamboozling a significant proportion of the voting public. Of course you can't prove it. You're using a Trumpism, just like the one Trump used in the White House transcript of the phone call with Zelensky where he says, "They say Crowdstrike." Who's "they?" Trump does this all time. "They're saying this" and "they're saying that" when the only person saying it is Trump. This is what he does when he's making things up and can't prove what he's saying. That's why you just now had to add that you can't prove what you're saying, because saying stuff like "I've heard it somewhere" is not only not proof of anything, it's just a false way of trying to lend weight to something with no evidence.Now, moving on to address what you heard that you can't prove: If moving forward on impeachment is only going to hurt them, then you should be delighted that the Democrats are doing this. It's not just you saying this, many Republicans and many voices in the conservative media are claiming that impeachment just hurts the Democrats. In that case you should all be urging the Democrats on in their self destructive ways.But you're not, because at least inside you understand that the Democrats' actions hurt Trump. They hurt themselves, too, because a significant proportion of the electorate believes Trump did nothing wrong. We don't want to be impeaching every president, but then we also don't want future presidents to preside as if they were kings.--Percy

Schiff presented a parody of the "transcript. It was not a copy of the "transcript:, so he didn't use the same words. But he covered the same material and conveyed a message very similar to the "transcript". Schiff:

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It reads like a classic organized crime shakedown. Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates. We’ve been very good to your country, very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I don’t see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you though. And I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand. Lots of it. On this and on that. I’m going to put you in touch with people, not just any people, I am going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my Attorney General Bill Barr. He’s got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And I’m going to put you in touch with Rudy. You’re going to love him. Trust me. You know what I’m asking. And so I’m only going to say this a few more times. In a few more ways. And by the way, don’t call me again. I’ll call you when you’ve done what I asked.

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This is in sum and character what the president was trying to communicate with the president of Ukraine. It would be funny if it wasn’t such a graphic betrayal of the president’s oath of office. But as it does represent a real betrayal, there’s nothing the president says here that is in America’s interest after all.

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The President: Well it 1svery nice of you to say that. I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I wasspeaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she doesn't doanything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.

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Schiff: We’ve been very good to your country, very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I don’t see much reciprocity here.

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President Zelensky: ...We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.

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The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike {the Russian propaganda - JonF}. I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it {there is no physical server - JonF}. There are a lot of things that went on, thewhole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you t get to the bottom of it.

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Good because Iheard you had a prosecutor whowas verygood and he was shut down and that's really unfair.A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_ mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the AttorneyGeneral. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States,the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just wan to_let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son that Eiden stopped the prosecution {He didn't - JonF} and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution {Nope - JonF} so if you can look into it. It sounds horrible to me.

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I will have Mr. Giuliani.give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything.

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I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call.

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Schiff: I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you though. And I’m going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand. Lots of it. On this and on that. I’m going to put you in touch with people, not just any people, I am going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my Attorney General Bill Barr. He’s got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And I’m going to put you in touch with Rudy. You’re going to love him. Trust me. You know what I’m asking

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Edited by JonF, : No reason given.Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

When someone calls themself a "constitutional originalist", it's kind of like someone calling themself a "Biblical literalist": they're telegraphing you that you're about to hear cherry-picked text, out of context quotes, and inaccurate history chosen to lead to their desired conclusion.Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

For Trump supporters with the courage to watch it, here's the video of Representative Eric Swalwell (D-CA) conducting a cross examination of lawyers Daniel S. Goldman (representing Democratics) and Stephen R. Castor (representing Republicans): --Percy

That was no parody it was an out and out fabrication of things Trump never said in any for4m whatever, a lie in other words, the usual attempt to make himn guilty of things he is not guilty of, and in any case how cany anyone justify someone's doing a parody of a President's call to a foreign leader? What kind of bizarre government are we running here? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

None of what Trump said was out of line in any way. I juswt hope thisw all comes out in the coming investigations. If I try to spell I out nobody is going to pay any attention to me anyway since you are all sure this is all wrongdoing although it isn't.

That is exactly why the whole world is laughing at our bizarre parody of what a President should be.

And yet the transcript and Schiff align quite well. Same subjects in the same order.

It's all come out already. The investigation phase is winding down.No matter how many times you deny what the investigation found the results don't go away.

First Amendment. I know you hate it but it's still in force. One with a Constitution and system of laws. Which are being followed in the impeachment. Which were followed in the Mueller investigation, as the IG report shows.Which people like you and Trump are trying to destroy and replace with some kind of perverted monarchy.

Yes trump's words are sacred text! To mock them is to mock the god-king himself! death to the unbelievers!pretty strange that respect for the president is only important when it's a white/orange man in the position.

No, not a Monarchy but rather a Fascist Oligarchy.