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Faith
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Message 406 of 2838 (845504)
12-16-2018 2:24 PM
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12-16-2018 2:22 PM


Re: The Faith Fact Checker
Yeah and I'm sure he'll drag it out until he can manufacture something that looks plausible enough to confuse enough people to pretend it's significant.
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Percy
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Message 407 of 2838 (845519)
12-16-2018 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 402 by Faith
12-16-2018 1:56 PM


Re: The Faith Fact Checker
Faith writes:

Pinocchio means liar, period.

I think Pinocchio means a little more than that, a cautionary tale of redemption and all that, but I provided the link where the icons are explained. If you don't like them then say things that are true.

Don't find your "facts" to be persuasive, sorry.

More significantly, you seem unable to muster any rebuttal, or to offer any support for your own views. You just believe what you believe, and rational fact-based thinking be damned. Congratulations on contributing a factless insult laden mess to your thread.

--Percy


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Percy
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Message 408 of 2838 (845521)
12-16-2018 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 398 by Faith
12-16-2018 1:25 PM


Re: A Few Books
Faith writes:

Yet he still denied to Mueller having any information about Wikileaks.

He denies knowing Assange or ever communicating with him. And you think you've proved otherwise?

The email from Corsi again was:

quote:
Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I'm back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging.

Unless you're claiming clairvoyance or ESP, that single email by itself shows he was lying, but there's more. Briefly summarizing, the publicly available information we have so far is that after Stone requested that Corsi query Assange, Corsi then recruited Ted Malloch in London to visit the Ecuadorian embassy and speak with Assange. The FBI served Malloch with a subpoena to appear for questioning before Robert Mueller, and with a warrant for his phone. It doesn't matter that Corsi denies everything publicly because Mueller evidently already has everything he needs. One of the articles that covers all this is Mueller has emails from Stone pal Corsi about WikiLeaks Dem email dump.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Grammar.


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Message 409 of 2838 (845523)
12-16-2018 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 408 by Percy
12-16-2018 5:03 PM


Re: A Few Books
It’s funny how someone who rails against lying character assassination should consider Jerome “Swift Boat” Corsi a trustworthy source.
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Percy
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Message 410 of 2838 (845525)
12-16-2018 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 400 by Faith
12-16-2018 1:38 PM


Re: Oh one more thing: a Fake News report
Faith writes:

I know from past incidents of reports about what's going on in the White House that suggest something like chaos or bad feeling or the like that it turned out to be made up, when other credible people answered the reports.

Let me guess that when anonymous sources spoke about the Obama administration that you believed them, but that when anonymous sources speak about the Trump administration that you don't. Inconsistent much?

Even without anonymous sources the Trump administration is obviously in chaos. Tillerson called him a "moron," and later someone undisciplined who doesn't read, including briefing papers, and doesn't take advice. John Kelly called the Trump White House "crazytown" and Trump "an idiot" and "unhinged. Plus we know Trump rankles under any kind of control. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus both called Trump an “idiot.” Former economic adviser Gary Cohn said Trump was "dumb as shit." Former national security adviser H. R. McMaster called Trump a "dope" and an "idiot." Seven Bannon said he was "like an 11-year-old child." In 2016 Mick Mulvaney said, "Yes, I am supporting Donald Trump, but I'm doing so despite the fact that I think he's a terrible human being" (he thought Hillary just as bad). In 2015 Senator Lindsey Graham called Trump a "race-baiting xenophobic bigot." Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Trump had the understanding of "a fifth- or sixth-grader." Of course chaos is emerging from this administration.

It's a typical piece of Fake News designed to buttress the Leftist line in the minds of the public. I think he's more concerned with trying to get his agenda done than he is worried about what the Left has been trying to do to him since before he even took office.

I think more and more of Trump's attention is being consumed by efforts to protect himself from impeachment, or down the road prosecution. Trump doesn't need help from anyone of the left, right or anywhere else to destroy his presidency - he's doing a fine job all by himself.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Typo.

Edited by Percy, : Typo.


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Percy
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Message 411 of 2838 (845526)
12-16-2018 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 404 by Faith
12-16-2018 2:16 PM


Re: The Faith Fact Checker
Faith writes:

You often say you're not a Leftist but you are defending the Leftist position.

You call everyone you disagree with leftist. You are not defending Republicanism or conservativism - you're defending Trump, who is neither Republican nor conservative. His positions are a mix of his own random impulses.

I am an independent who finds much to admire in both the liberal and conservative positions. There is little truly conservative in Trump's positions, and little to admire in them.

Mueller should have stopped the investigation long ago because he'd turned up nothing to show Trump colluded with Russia which was supposedly the reason for the whole thing, and he still hasn't, and so what if he hasn't produced a report, just means he has nothing to report.

Does the illogic in this need to be described? When did rationality depart your mortal soul?

There was no collusion.

Something you couldn't possibly know.

Look, all the stuff you think is meaningful isn't.

An allegation without substance or support.

Talking to Russians is normal in politics or business, everybody is trying to make something out of what is really nothing.

You apparently wackily think all those who lied about talking to the Russians did it because everything was aboveboard.

It is very likely the payments to the women will also be shown to have nothing to to do with the campaign. You are buying the Leftist spin and calling it facts.

It is not a fact that the mistress payoffs were related to the campaign. What is a fact is that Cohen, Pecker and likely Weisselberg have said the payoffs were related to the campaign. That doesn't make it a fact that the payoffs were related to the campaign, but it is strong evidence, something your position lacks in spades. You're hiding your head in the sand.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Grammar.


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Faith
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Message 412 of 2838 (845569)
12-17-2018 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 411 by Percy
12-16-2018 5:48 PM


Re: The Faith Fact Checker
Pinocchio, a picture of Pinocchio with growing nose, means liar. Period.

You call everyone you disagree with leftist.

Untrue.

You are not defending Republicanism or conservativism

Don't think I've claimed to. In any case it's irrelevant. Leftist is leftist.

you're defending Trump, who is neither Republican nor conservative. His positions are a mix of his own random impulses.

Not interested in the labels. Yes I am defending Trump, because like others on the Right I like his policies. Trump has been boldly speaking for what we on the Right care most about since he first opened his mouth in the campaign. He didn't talk like a politician and we like that. He said what we think and we like that. The more he is opposed on irrelevant side issues the more we like him and hate his opposition.


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Faith
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Message 413 of 2838 (845570)
12-17-2018 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 410 by Percy
12-16-2018 5:31 PM


Re: Oh one more thing: a Fake News report
Even without anonymous sources the Trump administration is obviously in chaos. Tillerson called him a "moron," and later someone undisciplined who doesn't read, including briefing papers, and doesn't take advice. John Kelly called the Trump White House "crazytown" and Trump "an idiot" and "unhinged.

That's not Trump in chaos, that's his unhinged opposition always in meltdown mode trying to bring him down.


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Faith
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Message 414 of 2838 (845571)
12-17-2018 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 408 by Percy
12-16-2018 5:03 PM


Re: A Few Books
The email from Corsi again was:

quote:

Word is friend in embassy plans 2 more dumps. One shortly after I'm back. 2nd in Oct. Impact planned to be very damaging.

Unless you're claiming clairvoyance or ESP, that single email by itself shows he was lying,

Other ways to interpret that email than that.


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Faith
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Message 415 of 2838 (845572)
12-17-2018 2:11 PM
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12-16-2018 5:48 PM


Re: The Faith Fact Checker
There was no collusion with Russia.

Anyone should know that by now, it doesn't take special powers of understanding.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Faith
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Message 416 of 2838 (845573)
12-17-2018 2:14 PM
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12-16-2018 1:07 PM


I suspect Limbaugh was talking about a different incident but I'll have to wait and see. If there was an earlier incident that would blow the whole campaign thing to bits anyway.
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Message 417 of 2838 (845574)
12-17-2018 2:14 PM
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12-17-2018 2:05 PM


Re: Oh one more thing: a Fake News report
That's not Trump in chaos, that's his unhinged opposition always in meltdown mode trying to bring him down.


boy how stupid is the guy who hired these unhinged opponents as the secretary of state and white house chief of staff.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Message 418 of 2838 (845575)
12-17-2018 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 415 by Faith
12-17-2018 2:11 PM


Re: The Faith Fact Checker
There was no collusion with Russia.

And as Faith has spoken so shall it be... except not. Because criminal investigations take time and don't end just because some snowflake thinks that they have gone on too long.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Faith
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Message 419 of 2838 (845577)
12-17-2018 2:19 PM


Really really wondering what is going to happen tomorrow when we hear from Judge Sullivan (?) about how Flynn was treated by the FBI. I hope the judge is one of the sane ones.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


    
Faith
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Message 420 of 2838 (845596)
12-17-2018 3:33 PM


-This discussion got started on the Offense thread but it really belongs here:

Examples of how the Democrats once sounded a lot like Trump on the subject of needing better defenses against illegal immigration.

Here's Bill Clinton

And Obama

And others.


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