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JonF
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Message 4516 of 5796 (870815)
01-25-2020 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 4503 by Percy
01-24-2020 7:43 PM


Re: Trump Lies Again
Er, I'm not Faith.

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JonF
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Message 4517 of 5796 (870816)
01-25-2020 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 4513 by Faith
01-25-2020 9:27 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
There's no point in discussing the particulars of this outrageous travesty of an impeachment.
Certainly not with you.
Due process was not violated. Proved over and over.
Trump did that of which he is accused. You don't even know what the accusations are, much less what the evidence is. The evidence or them is overwhelming. Nd every day more evidence damning Trump comes out.
You can't even name one false claim with evidence that it's false
It's you and your ilk's oft-demonstrated hate for the Constitution and laws that are putting our system in danger. "Laws for thee, but not for me".
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Percy
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Message 4518 of 5796 (870817)
01-25-2020 9:56 AM


Schiff's Closing Remarks
Here are Schiff's closing remarks after the House managers completed presentation of their case in the impeachment trial of Donald John Trump. I make it available not because it contains new information but because I think people should have the opportunity to hear sheer eloquence. Length is 8:40:
This isn't all Schiff said yesterday, but it was equally eloquent and I'm trying to run it down now.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Add title.

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Faith 
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Message 4519 of 5796 (870818)
01-25-2020 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 4517 by JonF
01-25-2020 9:50 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
Sad how as usual most of what you say describes your side and not mine.
The impeachment charges are all made up crap, describing things any President rightly does, unless he's Trump, who must be made a criminal for doing such normal thinbgs.

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Faith 
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Message 4520 of 5796 (870819)
01-25-2020 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 4518 by Percy
01-25-2020 9:56 AM


yeah I heard a lot of what the nauseatingly underhanded dishonest Schiff said in such hifalutin sanctimonious tones. I may not have the stomach to listen to your offering. Talk about making a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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JonF
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Message 4521 of 5796 (870820)
01-25-2020 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 4519 by Faith
01-25-2020 9:57 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
What are the charges, Faith?

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Faith 
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Message 4522 of 5796 (870821)
01-25-2020 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 4521 by JonF
01-25-2020 10:11 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
Abuse of power? What the House is doing you mean? What the FBI did in authorizing fake FISA warrants to spy on Trump's campaign? that's the abuse of power we've been seeing for thtree years now.Trump abused nothing.
You mean "obstruction of Congress" which is a noncategory and dscribdes onbly Trump's refusal to go along with the dishonest House's abuse of power. and in fact their violation of the Separation of Powers with their usurpation, and their criminalization of powers that belong to the Executive Brancyh.
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Percy
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Message 4523 of 5796 (870825)
01-25-2020 10:49 AM


This is all of day 5 with all of Schiff's closing comments queued up and ready to go. It's about an hour in length. I don't think it's necessary to listen to it for any factual reasons, just for it's eloquence. I didn't think there were any statesmen on Capitol Hill, but maybe I was wrong:
--Percy
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JonF
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Message 4524 of 5796 (870829)
01-25-2020 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 4522 by Faith
01-25-2020 10:35 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
Woefully incomplete. How is it alleged that he abused his power?
I posted the law that defines obstruction of Congress in Message 4479.
18 U.S. Code § 1505 - Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
quote:
Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress
Obstruction of Congress is in US law. Trump unquestionably broke that law. FISA warrants are irr. What Trump did is relevant.
The power of impeachment does not belong to the executive branch. What executive branch powers have been usurped or criminilazed?
Specifics, Faith. Specifics.
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PaulK
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Message 4525 of 5796 (870831)
01-25-2020 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 4515 by Faith
01-25-2020 9:40 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
quote:
You consistently demonstrate that you certainly do not know the difference between good and eviL
So lying to defend a corrupt president is good in your eyes? Because that’s all we get from you.
quote:
No I don't think anyone WANTS to take the side of evil
I think you do. That’s why you support Trump.
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Faith 
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Message 4526 of 5796 (870837)
01-25-2020 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 4525 by PaulK
01-25-2020 11:12 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
The Left doean't know a lie from a mere joke or colorful way of talking.

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PaulK
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Message 4527 of 5796 (870839)
01-25-2020 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 4526 by Faith
01-25-2020 11:26 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
You mean that everything you’ve said on the impeachment is just a joke? I think you should do something about your sense of humour.

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JonF
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Message 4528 of 5796 (870841)
01-25-2020 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4526 by Faith
01-25-2020 11:26 AM


Re: Trump Lies Yet Again
It would be nice if you could reply with something connected to the message to which you're replying instead of a random gratuitous insult.

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Percy
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Message 4529 of 5796 (870842)
01-25-2020 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 4462 by Faith
01-23-2020 7:27 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Faith writes:
Yes it's symbolism and why not? They are targets to be hit should Americans be murdered. Solid real targets. I don't see anything in it to compare with your example from Hitler. Except of course your alignment with the leftist hatred of Trump that loves to identify him with Hitler, while in reality it is the Left that is in fact doing the fascist things they are accusing him of -- though he is a solid defender of American values and institutions, Constitutional rights and freedoms the Left seems to be throwing in the trash these days.
My, what a bundle of fallacies and hate you are. Only someone full of hate could spend so much time and effort accusing everyone else of hate. By the way, I didn't mention Hitler, you did. Godwin would be proud.
Should you find any facts supporting your weird allegations you get back to us, okay?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 4530 of 5796 (870843)
01-25-2020 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 4463 by Faith
01-23-2020 7:31 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Faith writes:
No. What you are calling commands in the Bible are not commands, they are historical information.
Of course they are, sweetie.
--Percy

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