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Faith 
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Message 826 of 5796 (848091)
01-31-2019 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 825 by PaulK
01-31-2019 1:38 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
I want it "covered up?" Sigh.

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Faith 
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Message 827 of 5796 (848092)
01-31-2019 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 822 by JonF
01-31-2019 1:33 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
As I understand it he gets his information from those in the field.

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PaulK
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Message 828 of 5796 (848093)
01-31-2019 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 826 by Faith
01-31-2019 1:41 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
You are certainly reacting badly to the fact it’s being reported, even though it is obviously newsworthy.

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Message 829 of 5796 (848094)
01-31-2019 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 825 by PaulK
01-31-2019 1:38 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
McConnell - who was dutifully supporting the government shutdown - is an enemy ?
Besides it is worthy of notice when a President’s policy is condemned by his own party.
I expect when it comes down to it McConnell won't do it.
McConnell and Faith both think Trump shits chocolate syrup.

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Faith 
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Message 830 of 5796 (848095)
01-31-2019 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 828 by PaulK
01-31-2019 1:45 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
I know you guys will never see it though it continues to amaze me. I mean something like 95% of the headlines about Trump are negative and you guys just say that's because he's 95% wrong and never question that reaction. But no, that is an unprecedented amount of bad press for even the most hated politician imaginable. Even George Bush didn't get such a bad press a the height of the attacks on him. No, this is a concerted attempt to bring down Trump and everything and anything negative that they can conjure up or inflate or outright invent will do for that purpose. If you wonder why I can't take anything any of you say seriously that's why. There's no freedom of the press here, there's no other side ever expressed although Trump certainly still has lots of supporters who appreciate how hard he is working to live up to his promises and how well he has managed to succeed despite the neverending attacks on him. The press is not the press any more at all, it's political activism all on the Left. I wish you'd all wake up and see what's going on but I guess that isn't going to happen.

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JonF
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Message 831 of 5796 (848096)
01-31-2019 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 827 by Faith
01-31-2019 1:43 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
As usual you don't understand. Trump loves to be photographed with low-level supporters. Show me photographs of him getting his information in the field.
I just searched Google, and of the first 30 or so hits two were not with the upp echelon, and those were him standing in front of a group and not talking to them.

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Faith 
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Message 832 of 5796 (848097)
01-31-2019 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 831 by JonF
01-31-2019 1:54 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Your "evidence" means nothing, sorry. For one thing Google has changed things so that only what they want to appear at the top of their lists is what appears. Yes Google is just another bunch of Leftist activists. They've long since abandoned the method that simply brings up what people are interested in.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 833 of 5796 (848098)
01-31-2019 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 830 by Faith
01-31-2019 1:53 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Trump is easily the worst President ever. That's why the calumny.
I do see articles in the liberal press that don't validate the gee-whiz headline. I"ve seen errors, and their corrections. I've seen mighty mountains raised from insignificant molehills.
And I've seen almost all the criticism of Trump obviously true, supported by evidence.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 834 of 5796 (848099)
01-31-2019 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 832 by Faith
01-31-2019 1:59 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Prove it.
None of the allegations of anti-right-wing Google or Face or Titt or Tumbler have held ester

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Faith 
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Message 835 of 5796 (848100)
01-31-2019 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 834 by JonF
01-31-2019 2:05 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
No I can't prove it. I know from experience that topics I used to find at the top of their lists are now two or three pages in, and that includes my own blog posts. My blog was small potatoes but I could just about predict when a certain topic would hit the top of Google, which owns Blogger, and that simply stopped happening. About the same time they changed the pages where I manage the blog so that I can no longer figure any of it out let alone control it. My viewers went from the hundreds down to the tens. Right, must be my fault, nothing to do with Google. Of course.

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PaulK
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Message 836 of 5796 (848101)
01-31-2019 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 830 by Faith
01-31-2019 1:53 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
We don’t agree with you because - as usual - your argument makes no sense. Trump attracts criticism with his erratic behaviour, his continual lying, the turmoil in his administration, his secrecy and of course the Russian connections. And the lying about the Russian connections.
George Bush - for all the criticisms made of him - wasn’t as bad as Trump.
quote:
No, this is a concerted attempt to bring down Trump and everything and anything negative that they can conjure up or inflate or outright invent will do for that purpose
What a ridiculous lie.
quote:
...you wonder why I can't take anything any of you say seriously that's why.
We already knew it’s because we tell the truth and you hate that. But thanks for demonstrating it again.

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Faith 
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Message 837 of 5796 (848103)
01-31-2019 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 836 by PaulK
01-31-2019 2:12 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
All just a bunch of puffed up fiction from my point of view. And my point of view is shared by LOTS of people. Lots.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 838 of 5796 (848104)
01-31-2019 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 809 by Faith
01-31-2019 12:28 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Faith writes:
I'm for taking individual cases into account as much as possible.
Again, every illegal immigrant is an individual case. Are you trying to say that you're willing to give appropriate consideration to the unique circumstances of each immigrant's case? How likely do you think that is given that in the past month alone ICE has twice been caught trying to deport American citizens, that we know of only because they made the news (one was a veteran with mental issues, the other was comedian Mohanad Elshieky from Portland, OR - how dare he have a foreign name!).
As for the Rio Grande why do you all focus on the problematic parts when the border patrol would be happy for a wall at many locations that wouldn't be problematic?
Here's a link to USA Today's US/Mexico border map article. I can't post the images from it because they're dynamic. Notice that with the exception of the Rio Grande, most of the border already has wall or fencing. If Trump wants to build 240 more miles of wall or fencing or whatever then it will have to be along the Rio Grande.
The right kind of wall in those locations...
What locations are you talking about? You have no idea, do you. Because Trump has no idea, either.
...would cut down on their work keeping track of illegals and drugs and whatnot,...
Because it must be much more, I'm being kind when I say you've been informed at least ten times that most drugs cross the border at legal checkpoints. When you miss a point once that's okay. When you miss it twice then you're being inattentive. When you miss it three or more times then you're being incredibly sloppy. When you miss it more than that then you're just purposefully ignoring it or are just too plain stupid to comprehend a simple point.
...and I'm sure they have the brains to deal with different situations differently, so if a wall, or a certain kind of wall, doesn't work at the Rio Grande, they'll need some other methods there.
Indubitably.
Meanwhile the wall will work for the places where it will work.
Spoken like the genius you are. Look again at the map I provided in the link above. Where, besides the Rio Grande, can you find 240 miles where there isn't either a vehicle or pedestrian barrier.
So now that we've settled that the Rio Grande is the only place where there is 240 miles of "no wall," how much sense does Trump's demand for 240 more miles of wall make?
Nevertheless, the Border Patrol is forced to take Trump's demand for a wall along the Rio Grande seriously. In case you doubt that they're taking it seriously, here is a diagram from a Border Patrol proposal for how they'd construct a wall along the Rio Grande:
Note the complete unobtrusiveness of this wall proposal. The wall blocks all access to the river. There's a 150 foot barren zone behind the wall. Also behind the wall is a highway for travel by the Border Patrol only. On the other side of the wall is a maintenance road. Every hundred feet there's a light tower. Every few hundred feet there's an immense Remote Video Surveillance System tower. Velociraptors patrol the area between the wall and the river (I made that last part up).
Oh, and let me guess. You couldn't see the map because it was just too white. If your visual disability makes it impossible for you to inform yourself, that doesn't justify filling in the blanks with whatever beliefs appeal to you.
--Percy

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Faith 
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Message 839 of 5796 (848105)
01-31-2019 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 838 by Percy
01-31-2019 2:16 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
I get tired of all the projections and innuendos treated as important on your side, like all the rumors and suspicions and fictions that pass for news. It all means absolutely nothing to me. If the wall plan you illustrate is actually a serious plan then I will assume it's a good plan and I could not care less what you think of it. Otherwise I will expect to hear of better solutions when we're nearer to something actually happening.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 840 of 5796 (848107)
01-31-2019 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 810 by Faith
01-31-2019 12:33 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Faith writes:
No, I'm always serious about what I post.
Well that's scary. Here's the part of the Wikipedia definition that you appear to be responding to:
quote:
...whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.
So if you're not trolling for amusement then it must be for a specific gain, such as promotion of your political beliefs.
If we were to trim down the Wikipedia definition of troll so that it was specific to you then it would read like this:
quote:
Faith is an Internet troll who participates primarily at EvC Forum (likely because its dark background is easier on her macular degenerative eyes) who starts quarrels or upsets people to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion in order to promote her political and religious beliefs.
Better?
--Percy

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