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JonF
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Message 901 of 5796 (848213)
02-01-2019 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 881 by Faith
02-01-2019 3:05 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Now this is interesting. I see that the pages describing a narcissist include charm as a characteristic and the pages describing narcissistic personality disorder do not.
Not very flattering to Trump.

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Faith 
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Message 902 of 5796 (848215)
02-01-2019 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 896 by JonF
02-01-2019 4:55 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Nope.
As I suggested to PaulK, go google "Narcissistic personality charming"
Narcissistic Personality Disorder Characteristics:
  • Lack of empathy
  • Exaggerated sense of self-importance.
  • Feelings of entitlement.
  • Selfishness in relationships.
  • Enviousness and suspicion of other people's motivations
  • A need for excessive praise and attention.
  • Insistence on associating only with other special people
  • Preoccupied by fantasies of great achievements, power, or recognition
  • Feelings of inferiority, insecurity, and low self-esteem, and an extreme need for the approval of others
Perhaps selfishness in relationships, which would fit a vast majority of human beings anyway. But NONE of the rest. In fact it is absurd to impute those qualities to Trump.
If Trump had some unusual need of praise and approval he couldn't have lasted the first month in office with the vicious attacks against him that have continued unabated in the press and the social media from the beginning. I certainly don't see feelings of insecurity considering how amazingly strong he has been at facing down his critics. Good grief, nobody has been as strong as Trump in the situation he's in, or could be.
Need to be among special people? My impression is that he prefers the company of blue collar workers and is rather uncomfortable among the elites in Washington.
Entitlement? How?
Exaggerated sense of self importance? How? I see him as sincerely trying to live up to his promises to his supporters, not putting himself above anybody. Where do you get this stuff?
Envy? How? Good grief, envy? That's the hallmark of the Left. And so is a sense of entitlement. Not Trump.
Suspiciousness of other people's motivations? Actually I think he's way too trusting and accepts people into his inner circle he shouldn't have accepted, because he isn't suspicious enough.
And so on. I think this list is at best Liberal Paranoia and at worst Leftist hatred finding a bunch of lies to rally round.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 903 of 5796 (848216)
02-01-2019 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 887 by Faith
02-01-2019 4:13 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
The real problem with Trump’s lies or delusions is that he has incredible power to act on them, and he does.
The Southwest border didn't even make the intelligence agencies' list. There's no crosis
Iran has not violated the terms of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, but Trump thinks they did and violated it.
No NATO member is behind on any payments but Trump keeps castigating them.
North Korea remains a major nuclear threat.
The list goes on and on.

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JonF
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Message 904 of 5796 (848217)
02-01-2019 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 902 by Faith
02-01-2019 5:18 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
As I said, Trump to a T.
You really think his constant craving for praise isn't feelings of inferiority, insecurity, and low self-esteem, and an extreme need for the approval of others? A need for excessive praise and attention? Remember the cabinet meetings where every secretary had to suck up? The many campaign rally for others where he talked almost exclusively about himself?
And preoccupied by fantasies of great achievements, power, or recognition? Remember how he said "North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat"?
I could list many many more facts demonstrating how well every item on the list fits him for you to hand-wave away.

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Percy
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Message 905 of 5796 (848218)
02-01-2019 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 871 by Faith
02-01-2019 1:19 AM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Faith writes:
I also think capitalism is doing well under Trump.
I think unbridled capitalism is doing very well under Trump.
--Percy

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Faith 
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Message 906 of 5796 (848224)
02-01-2019 6:13 PM
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02-01-2019 5:40 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
You are describing a phantom of your own making.

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DrJones*
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Message 907 of 5796 (848226)
02-01-2019 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 906 by Faith
02-01-2019 6:13 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
how is this:
not a clear sign of narcissism?
Edited by Admin, : Embed YouTube video in the message.

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Faith 
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Message 908 of 5796 (848227)
02-01-2019 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 907 by DrJones*
02-01-2019 6:17 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Please add a substantial quote from the link.

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Percy
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Message 909 of 5796 (848228)
02-01-2019 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 885 by Faith
02-01-2019 4:00 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Faith writes:
And the "lying" you all impute to him is just not being careful about what he says.
How quickly you forget. This is the denial of any knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payoff:
Or how about, "There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country," from just a few days ago.
Or maybe you believed Trump when he said, "We're building the wall as we speak," in October last year.
Or how about, "Mexico will pay for the wall."
Or how about stating he'd release his tax returns.
--Percy

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DrJones*
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Message 910 of 5796 (848229)
02-01-2019 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 908 by Faith
02-01-2019 6:21 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
nobody knows much more about technology, about this type of technology certainly, than i do
I know more about ISIS than the generals do
I know more about courts than any human being on earth
I know more about drones than anybody
I know about every form of safety that you can have

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AZPaul3
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Message 911 of 5796 (848243)
02-01-2019 9:10 PM
Reply to: Message 892 by Faith
02-01-2019 4:25 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Well I did try to warn you that I might stray. Just a bit.
No, I can't hate you honestly or otherwise.
It's just that some people have such disastrously bad ideas they need to be questioned, then ridiculed.
You seem to reach that stage quite often.
But, no, I will not hate on you. I may laugh or roll my eyes at you but I will not hate you.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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14174dm
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Message 912 of 5796 (848247)
02-01-2019 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 899 by Faith
02-01-2019 4:59 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
...the popular vote is a false representation ...
I don't know what to say.
You call liberals elitist but here you say outright that millions of Americans that don't agree with you don't deserve to count because only you are right.
So gerrymandering, racist ID laws, closing local voting precincts, and anything to keep down the votes of the wrong people is acceptable since you are one of the right people.
If you had done any research you would see that millions in urban areas vote for both major parties, minor parties, split votes among parties, etc.

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Faith 
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Message 913 of 5796 (848248)
02-01-2019 11:52 PM
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02-01-2019 11:22 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
It's the Left that does the voter fraud.
But the Electoral college is about geography, not people.

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Percy
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Message 914 of 5796 (848253)
02-02-2019 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 890 by Faith
02-01-2019 4:18 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Faith writes:
Self awareness is not one of your strong suits I see.
Perhaps you are right. In which case you need to explain what you mean.
You don't realize how what you do and say is perceived by others. That's why you express hate and evil with casual indifference. Your animosity, insensitivity and grandiosity are all symptoms.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 915 of 5796 (848254)
02-02-2019 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 892 by Faith
02-01-2019 4:25 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Faith writes:
Oh and my views are pretty consistent with the millions who voted for Trump...
Yes, very scary. There is a large cohort of ignorant and scared people who will follow anyone promising to lead them from the quagmire of misfortune that is their lives by blaming all their problems on others.
But the promises are lies. Coal isn't coming back. American manufacturing isn't going to experience a rebirth. Immigrants are not stealing jobs and costing a fortune. Isolationism and tariffs are not a roadway to economic success. Climate change is not a myth.
Head in the sand politics is never successful in the long term because reality eventually intrudes.
--Percy

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