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Faith
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Message 991 of 1053 (848378)
02-03-2019 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 990 by dwise1
02-03-2019 10:09 PM


Re: voter fraud
Wow, are you always this vicious when someone fails to do what you want?
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Message 992 of 1053 (848379)
02-03-2019 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 991 by Faith
02-03-2019 10:20 PM


Re: voter fraud
No, but when somebody turns out to be an evil lying troll, then that's a different matter.
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Message 993 of 1053 (848392)
02-04-2019 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 988 by Faith
02-03-2019 9:50 PM


Re: voter fraud
There's no scripture commanding you to hate everyone who's different from you.

But you do it anyway.


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Percy
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Message 994 of 1053 (848403)
02-04-2019 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 972 by Faith
02-03-2019 8:15 PM


Re: voter fraud
Faith writes:

It is so frustrating to try to deal with someone like you who can't follow a logical sequence so is always blaming me for your own stupidity.

If you have nothing constructive to say, if you're responding without even reading what was written to you (as has become obvious to both me and dwise1), if you're going to simply declare your contorted justifications correct while never explaining how they make any sense, then it would be better if you stopped posting here. It has been clear for some time that you have nothing to offer but gratuitous insults, baseless accusations, gullibility and ignorance.

So what late comers were you referring to? What deadlines were you talking about? Which races did you have in mind? What did you mean when you said votes would be discarded?

Then there are other things you've ignored. What was the Border Patrol's explanation for why they need a wall in addition to the Rio Grande? Do you understand the difference between a Marxist and a Democrat on the one hand, and a fascist and a Republican on the other?

--Percy


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Message 995 of 1053 (848405)
02-04-2019 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 973 by Faith
02-03-2019 8:17 PM


Re: voter fraud
Faith writes:

Wasn't I clear? I didn't read your post.

How can you know DWise1 didn't understand your point if you didn't read his post?

There are too many of you heaping posts that are too long on me and end up saying nothing anyway.

If you didn't read them, how do you know they didn't make effective points.

Sorry, I don't even try anymore.

This has been obvious for quite some time.

--Percy


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Message 996 of 1053 (848406)
02-04-2019 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 977 by Faith
02-03-2019 8:49 PM


Re: voter fraud
Faith writes:

As long as I get my opinion in once in a while all the names you guys call me day in and day out, hour in and hour out, fade to incoherent chatter.

If you're not here for discussion but only to use EvC Forum as a soapbox then please stop posting here.

--Percy


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AZPaul3
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Message 997 of 1053 (848414)
02-04-2019 7:02 PM


Did someone mention voter fraud?

Except this is more of a votee fraud thing.

Texas Republicans claim to have found 95,000 illegal voters.

They did this by comparing lists of names on recent voter rolls with rolls of registered non-citizens at Texas Department of Public Safety ... going back 22 years.

Yes.

So a non-citizen of some 20+- years ago somehow, inexplicable, ended up voting in the last election. How could that possibly be?

Inquiring minds want to know ...

... so they can purge the voter rolls of these potentially fraudulent registrations which are predominantly Hispanic surnames and might, potentially, vote other than republican.

It took a lot of people a lot of time to go from non-citizen to citizen legally, morally, ethically and now the Texas Republican Party tries to screw-up their right to vote.

DISPATCHES FROM THE CULTURE WARS

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Faith
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Message 998 of 1053 (848417)
02-05-2019 5:15 AM
Reply to: Message 535 by Percy
01-21-2019 2:06 PM


Your "facts" about Trump's "racism" are the usual innuendo
No there are no actual facts, it's all innuendo.

Didn't Trump call Nazis and White Supremacists "very nice people?" Let me see if I can find the exact quote. Ah, yes, here it is: "You also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." He's referring, of course, to the Nazis and White Supremacists who marched in Charlottesville. Here's a YouTube video of him saying those exact words:

He spoke in two different contexts, one that there were fine people on both sides, and in that context he was talking about the people on both sides of the issue of pulling down or preserving the Confederate statues. He wasn't making a judgment about the people themselves, but the motivation on both sides of that issue. To turn that into a statement in favor of white supremacists is the usual Crazy Leftist twisting. Never a moment of benefit of the doubt ever. The idea that he would blatantly support white supremacy is in itself crazy. And eventually he stated quite clearly that he condemns all kinds of racism.

The other context was the clash between the two groups in which he said there was blame on both sides. The Leftists came at the other side violently, there was blame to go around. Again not a judgment of the character of the people, but of the actions on both sides.

So it would appear to be a fact.

Even facts can be used as innuendo. You take the facts out of context. Facts do not in themselves mean anything, it is the context that says what they mean and you misread the above contexts, and also those following:

And there are other facts supporting Trump's racism going back decades, such as his efforts to avoid renting his apartments to blacks,

You give no evidence or context so as usual I doubt it is racist, and as with the above and rest of what you say here, I expect to turn out to be right. It will be the usual unsupported assumption.

his advocacy of the death penalty for the black and Latino Central Park Five (who turned out to be innocent),

It is YOU who are racist by assuming their race was the reason he called for the death penalty. There is no reason to assume that.

his reference to Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists,

Nonsense. He's many times corrected that idiotic Leftist twisting. His meaning was that there are criminals and rapists among them, and there are. There were 600 convicted criminals identified in the caravan that ended up in Tijuana.

accusing Haitian immigrants as all having AIDS,

Obviously he had information that there is a lot of AIDS among the Haitians. ALL? Of course not. But Leftists insist on mishearing him when he speaks in hyperbole. A bunch of race baiters the lot of you.

his criticism of a Hispanic judge who ruled against him,

Oh that of COURSE must be because the judge was Hispanic. Can you people think at all, ever?

his Muslim travel ban,

Because of the REALISTIC DANGER of jihadis among them. Duh.

his "Obama not born in America" campaign,

There is plenty of reason to think Obama was born in Kenya, especially his grandmother who "accidentally" said so. Schwarzenegger was born in Germany, is saying so racist?

his criticisms and neglection of Puerto Rico after its devastation by Hurricane Maria,

More typical innuendo, all made up by the race baiting left.

is endorsement of Roy Moore for Senator from Alabama,

Roy Moore is a solid conservative constitutionalist.

and his use of the term Pocahontas as a term of disparagement.

Oh how silly. You probably don't know the scripture that condemns the kind of people who "make a person a criminal over a word."

You ARE a social Leftist so nothing I say is going to change your mind. Not a shred of decency on the Left, not a shred of benefit of the doubt and the doubt here is huge because there is no evidence except the racism in the mind of the accuser. It's all race baiting and character assassination based on NOTHING. Innendo, period.

I came back from Inactive to comment on this. Bye again, I hope forever.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith
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Message 999 of 1053 (848418)
02-05-2019 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 997 by AZPaul3
02-04-2019 7:02 PM


You are assuming the previous noncitizens are now citizens. You don't know that.
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AZPaul3
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Message 1000 of 1053 (848419)
02-05-2019 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 999 by Faith
02-05-2019 5:25 AM


The point is, M'love, neither do the Texas Republicans, they didn't bother to follow through, they just want to throw them out. A racist raid on the right to vote.

Seems it's ok to yank voting privileges from citizens who used to be non-citizens especially when they're brown.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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JonF
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Message 1001 of 1053 (848421)
02-05-2019 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 998 by Faith
02-05-2019 5:15 AM


Re: Your "facts" about Trump's "racism" are the usual innuendo
He spoke in two different contexts, one that there were fine people on both sides, and in that context he was talking about the people on both sides of the issue of pulling down or preserving the Confederate statues. He wasn't making a judgment about the people themselves, but the motivation on both sides of that issue. To turn that into a statement in favor of white supremacists is the usual Crazy Leftist twisting. Never a moment of benefit of the doubt ever. The idea that he would blatantly support white supremacy is in itself crazy. And eventually he stated quite clearly that he condemns all kinds of racism.

The other context was the clash between the two groups in which he said there was blame on both sides. The Leftists came at the other side violently, there was blame to go around. Again not a judgment of the character of the people, but of the actions on both sides.


One side were Naziis. The other side wasn't.

Oh that of COURSE must be because the judge was Hispanic. Can you people think at all, ever?.

He explicitly said it was because the judge is Hispanic.

quote:
On June 2, 2016, Trump told the Wall Street Journal that Curiel had "an absolute conflict" in presiding over the litigation given that he is "of Mexican heritage" and a member of a Latino lawyers’ association. (When Trump said in a separate interview that Curiel "is a member of a club or society, very strongly pro-Mexican" in referfence to the group, PolitiFact National rated his statement Mostly False.) Trump told the journal the judge’s background was relevant because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and his pledge to seal the southern U.S. border. "I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest," Trump said.

There is plenty of reason to think Obama was born in Kenya, especially his grandmother who "accidentally" said so. Schwarzenegger was born in Germany, is saying so racist?

There is no evidence he was born in Kenya and plenty of evidence he was born in hawaii.

quote:
The edited portion that often makes the rounds on the Internet includes this part of the interview:

McRae: "Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to visit Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?"

"She says yes she was. She was present when Obama was born," said the translator.

Smoking gun? Only if you stop the tape there and don't listen to the rest of the interview.

McRae immediately followed up by saying, "Okay, when I come in December, I would like to go by the place, the hospital where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?"

The translator can be heard translating, and then, he said, "No. Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America."

Said McRae: "Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya."

The response came back, "He was born in America, not in Mombasa."

"Do you know where he was born?" McRae continued. "I thought he was born in Kenya. I was gonna go by and see where he was born."

"Hawaii. She says he was born in Hawaii," the translator said. "In the state of Hawaii, where his father, his father was also learning there. The state of Hawaii."

"I thought she said she was present," McRae said. "Was she able to see him being born in Hawaii?''

"No, no," the translator said. "...She was not ... she was here in Kenya. Obama was born in America ... Because the grandmother was back in Kenya and Obama was born in America, where he is from, where his father was learning, learning in America, the United States."


Roy Moore is a solid conservative constitutionalist.

And a child molester.

Edited by Admin, : Fix dBCode for first quote.


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PaulK
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Message 1002 of 1053 (848422)
02-05-2019 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1001 by JonF
02-05-2019 9:26 AM


Re: Your "facts" about Trump's "racism" are the usual innuendo
You forgot that Roy Moore was removed from office over his Constitutional violations (he REALLY likes Establishment of religion).

(Cue the assertions that James Madison and Thomas Jefferson are evil “revisionists”)


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Percy
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Message 1003 of 1053 (848424)
02-05-2019 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 998 by Faith
02-05-2019 5:15 AM


Re: Your "facts" about Trump's "racism" are the usual innuendo
You're replying to a message from 500 messages ago? Are you planning to reply to all the other messages you've ignored from me, around 70 altogether in this thread alone.

Trump is a racist and a white supremacist, as demonstrated by his words and actions over many years.

Faith writes:

And there are other facts supporting Trump's racism going back decades, such as his efforts to avoid renting his apartments to blacks,

You give no evidence or context so as usual I doubt it is racist, and as with the above and rest of what you say here, I expect to turn out to be right. It will be the usual unsupported assumption.

Of course I provided no evidence in that post - I had already presented it in an earlier post that you ignored. Why should I present the evidence yet again. I'm not going to do your homework and track that post down for you. You were the one who ignored it, you find it.

...his advocacy of the death penalty for the black and Latino Central Park Five (who turned out to be innocent),

It is YOU who are racist by assuming their race was the reason he called for the death penalty. There is no reason to assume that.

If race wasn't the reason, name a case where Trump took out a full page ad in multiple newspapers decrying the criminal element where the perpetrators were white. The Mafia is white, so where was Trump when there were Mafia murders? Son of Sam was white, so where was Trump then?

Even after the Central Park Five were found innocent and the actual perpetrator established through DNA evidence, Trump continued to attack the Central Park Five.

his reference to Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists,

Nonsense. He's many times corrected that idiotic Leftist twisting. His meaning was that there are criminals and rapists among them, and there are. There were 600 convicted criminals identified in the caravan that ended up in Tijuana.

Some Trump quotes about Mexicans:

quote:
When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best...They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
...
Sadly, the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our major cities is committed by blacks and hispanics - a tough subject - must be discussed.
...
When will the U.S. stop sending $'s to our enemies, i.e. Mexico and others.
...
The Mexican legal system is corrupt, as is much of Mexico. Pay me the money that is owed me now - and stop sending criminals over our border
...
The border is wide open for cartels & terrorists. Secure our border now. Build a massive wall & deduct the costs from Mexican foreign aid!

I hope you didn't miss the swipe at blacks and Hispanics committing most of the crimes.

accusing Haitian immigrants as all having AIDS,

Obviously he had information that there is a lot of AIDS among the Haitians. ALL? Of course not. But Leftists insist on mishearing him when he speaks in hyperbole. A bunch of race baiters the lot of you.

While Haiti has the highest HIV rate in the Caribbean, it is only 2%.

his criticism of a Hispanic judge who ruled against him,

Oh that of COURSE must be because the judge was Hispanic. Can you people think at all, ever?

We know Trump criticized the judge for being Hispanic because that's what Trump said, that Judge Gonzalo Curiel, an American of Mexican descent, was biased while presiding over a Trump University lawsuit because he had “an absolute conflict” because he was “of Mexican heritage” and a member of a Latino lawyers’ association. Judge Curiel was born in Indiana.

his Muslim travel ban,

Because of the REALISTIC DANGER of jihadis among them. Duh.

This is just fear mongering driven by racial prejudice. There's no evidence of this danger, just as there's no evidence of a crisis on our southern border, other than the humanitarian crisis Trump has created himself.

his "Obama not born in America" campaign,

There is plenty of reason to think Obama was born in Kenya, especially his grandmother who "accidentally" said so.

Obama's birth certificate is from Hawaii.

Schwarzenegger was born in Germany, is saying so racist?

What a strange question. Your thinking is unfathomable on this one.

his criticisms and neglection of Puerto Rico after its devastation by Hurricane Maria,

More typical innuendo, all made up by the race baiting left.

Trump excused his administration's poor disaster response by blaming Puerto Rico officials who criticized the response, and by the excuse that Puerto Rico was an island.

is endorsement of Roy Moore for Senator from Alabama,

Roy Moore is a solid conservative constitutionalist.

Roy Moore is a racist, a white nationalist, anti-LGBT, and when younger a sexual predator.

and his use of the term Pocahontas as a term of disparagement.

Oh how silly. You probably don't know the scripture that condemns the kind of people who "make a person a criminal over a word."

Scripture doesn't justify racism.

You ARE a social Leftist...

I am a social liberal who believes the government should strive to make the lives of the people who elected it better.

...so nothing I say is going to change your mind.

It is true that nothing you could say would dissuade me from having compassion for my fellow man regardless of race, religion, or country of origin.

Not a shred of decency on the Left, not a shred of benefit of the doubt and the doubt here is huge because there is no evidence except the racism in the mind of the accuser. It's all race baiting and character assassination based on NOTHING. Innendo, period.

Said the racist product of white privilege.

I came back from Inactive to comment on this. Bye again, I hope forever.

Us too, but you always come back.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Grammar.


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Message 1004 of 1053 (848425)
02-05-2019 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 998 by Faith
02-05-2019 5:15 AM


Re: Your "facts" about Trump's "racism" are the usual innuendo
Schwarzenegger was born in Germany, is saying so racist?

No, saying so would be completely false! Scharzenegger was born in Austria, not in Germany. Austria is a completely different country from Germany.

But will you read that? Of course not! Will you ever learn better? Of course not! You will cling to your willful ignorance and hence also to your willful stupidity.

There is plenty of reason to think Obama was born in Kenya, especially his grandmother who "accidentally" said so.

Obama was born in Hawaii. I'm sure that you don't realize this, but Hawaii is a state in the USA. But of course you will never learn that because you will refuse to read anything that anybody tells to.

One point of confusion for you idiotic birthers is that President Barack Obama's fathers was also Barack Obama. The father was indeed born in Kenya, but not the son, our previous President. So when you ask his grandmother, the father's mother, about Barack Obama, how was she supposed to know whether you are talking about her son or her grandson?

But will you ever learn? No, of course not. You will just continue to repeat the same old idiotic bullshit alt-right lies.

Go back to Russia.


Once two decades ago when asked what I believed in, my spontaneous and totally honest answer was: "Truth, Justice, and the American Way." That's still my answer today.

"How Are We Still Fighting Nazis Today?"
(Daisy Johnson, S5E15)

It is a well-known fact that reality has a definite liberal bias.
(Steven Colbert on NPR)


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Faith
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Message 1005 of 1053 (848430)
02-05-2019 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1001 by JonF
02-05-2019 9:26 AM


Re: Your "facts" about Trump's "racism" are the usual innuendo
One side were Nazis....

So what. He was talking about the different points of view about the statue, not the people. But he may not even have been talking about the people who were there but including people across the country who are against taking down the statues, who are not white supremacists.

He explicitly said it was because she's Hispanic...

In which case he was accusing her of a conflict of interest, not being racist

And a child molester....

The Left will stop at nothing. No decency whatever.


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