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Phat
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Message 1126 of 5796 (850283)
04-05-2019 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1125 by Faith
04-05-2019 10:11 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Correction. Your opinion has been summarized, supported by those posts.
But I don't want to fight. We are here to discuss the reality of the times we live in.
Come to Our Great Debate(Discussion) Thread and talk withg me. We both love to talk, and if we can voice our opinion, people at EvC can respond to us at Peanut Gallery Comments on Great Debate
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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JonF
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Message 1127 of 5796 (850284)
04-05-2019 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1125 by Faith
04-05-2019 10:11 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
The request is for "What specifically is the problem? How specifically are they going to "bring down" the nation and "destroy it forever"? "
Those messages contain no specifics.
A specific refers to a named action or actions and would be something like" Hillary illegally mishandled email." Alas for you, her mishandling was not criminal.
It's pretty obvious that the only " crime" is doing stuff that you and your buddies don't like.

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Phat
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Message 1128 of 5796 (850285)
04-05-2019 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1127 by JonF
04-05-2019 11:10 AM


The Last Days Of Life As We Know It
The jury will be out long after the cows come home as to what constitutes fake news vs "real" news. Of course, we ALL know the answer. But allow me to be honest with all of you in this thread.
About a year ago, I purchased a smart speaker from Amazon. It took me a while to understand home wifi and how to hook it up, but within a month I learned how to use it. Faith knows the stories I used to read many years ago about the antichrist, the last days, plagues, and specifically this scripture
quote:
Matt 12:36-37
36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words, you will be condemned."
NKJV
Words are very powerful.
So getting back to my story.
We (my friends and I) soon found out that Alexa records everything that you say to it. Amazons disclaimer is that this feature is only used so that Alexa(Amazon Echo) can gather information and become "smarter". The smart speakers are essentially in the cloud. So lets ask ourselves just what the Cloud is?
  • How accurate is the information in this cloud?
  • Who monitors the clouds information?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    ringo
    Member (Idle past 438 days)
    Posts: 20940
    From: frozen wasteland
    Joined: 03-23-2005


    Message 1129 of 5796 (850286)
    04-05-2019 11:51 AM
    Reply to: Message 1125 by Faith
    04-05-2019 10:11 AM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Faith writes:
    The answers have already been given. See Message 1094, Message 1097, Message 1098,Message 1101 and probably others.
    Message 1094 is just a lot of vague raving.
    Message 1097 is more vague raving.
    Message 1098 isn't even related to the question.
    Message 1101 is more vague raving.
    It's pretty clear that you have no basis for your accusations. Congress is doing its job and you don't like it.

    And our geese will blot out the sun.

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    Phat
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    Message 1130 of 5796 (850287)
    04-05-2019 12:30 PM
    Reply to: Message 1129 by ringo
    04-05-2019 11:51 AM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    How about you and I starting our own Great Debate?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    ringo
    Member (Idle past 438 days)
    Posts: 20940
    From: frozen wasteland
    Joined: 03-23-2005


    Message 1131 of 5796 (850288)
    04-05-2019 12:35 PM
    Reply to: Message 1130 by Phat
    04-05-2019 12:30 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Phat writes:
    How about you and I starting our own Great Debate?
    I'm not a fan of the Great Debate format. What would be the point?

    And our geese will blot out the sun.

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    ringo
    Member (Idle past 438 days)
    Posts: 20940
    From: frozen wasteland
    Joined: 03-23-2005


    Message 1132 of 5796 (850289)
    04-05-2019 12:35 PM
    Reply to: Message 1130 by Phat
    04-05-2019 12:30 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Duplicate
    Edited by ringo, : No reason given.

    And our geese will blot out the sun.

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    Phat
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    Message 1133 of 5796 (850292)
    04-05-2019 1:18 PM
    Reply to: Message 1131 by ringo
    04-05-2019 12:35 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Because personally, I feel that our conversations are entertaining. If such a conversation was uninterrupted, it would provide infotainment to our brethren and sistren.

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    Stile
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    From: Ontario, Canada
    Joined: 12-02-2004


    Message 1134 of 5796 (850294)
    04-05-2019 1:27 PM
    Reply to: Message 1133 by Phat
    04-05-2019 1:18 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Phat writes:
    If such a conversation was uninterrupted, it would provide infotainment to our brethren and sistren
    Most brethren and sistren actually ignore the Great Debates they are not part of.
    It's more infotainment to read posts you can actually reply and engage with if desired. Posting a comment in a different "peanut gallery" thread is better than nothing, but still less infotainment then posting directly into an active thread.
    The purpose of a Great Debate is to provide a safer place for those who usually get the "pile-on" effect from many other posters.
    And it's very good at doing that.
    But providing better infotainment for others? No - not so much, it's actually kinda worse at that.

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    Tangle
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    Message 1135 of 5796 (850295)
    04-05-2019 1:28 PM
    Reply to: Message 1133 by Phat
    04-05-2019 1:18 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Phat writes:
    Because personally, I feel that our conversations are entertaining. If such a conversation was uninterrupted, it would provide infotainment to our brethren and sistren.
    If it was anything like your last one, I'd throw up. Again.

    Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
    "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
    "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
    - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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    ringo
    Member (Idle past 438 days)
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    Message 1136 of 5796 (850296)
    04-05-2019 1:29 PM
    Reply to: Message 1133 by Phat
    04-05-2019 1:18 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Phat writes:
    Because personally, I feel that our conversations are entertaining. If such a conversation was uninterrupted, it would provide infotainment to our brethren and sistren.
    I don't see why we can't be entertaining without keeping the other kids out of the playpen. And unlike the creationists, I don't mind being piled on. (It might even give me a hint that I'm wrong.)
    The problem with our discussions is that they almost always come down to the same old same old. We're Abbott and Costello doing Who's on First for the umpteenth time.

    And our geese will blot out the sun.

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    Phat
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    Joined: 12-30-2003
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    Message 1137 of 5796 (850299)
    04-05-2019 2:13 PM
    Reply to: Message 1136 by ringo
    04-05-2019 1:29 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    We're Abbott and Costello doing Who's on First for the umpteenth time.
    Im just saying we would derail any topic we were in.
    Better to be Right than Wrong.
    Better to be Righteous than LEFT Behind.
    See how Faith thinks?

    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
    Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
    In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
    ~Stile

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    ringo
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    Posts: 20940
    From: frozen wasteland
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    Message 1138 of 5796 (850300)
    04-05-2019 2:21 PM
    Reply to: Message 1137 by Phat
    04-05-2019 2:13 PM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Phat writes:
    Im just saying we would derail any topic we were in.
    True enough. I'm not dead set against a Great Debate but what would the topic be?

    And our geese will blot out the sun.

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    Percy
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    Message 1139 of 5796 (850318)
    04-06-2019 7:43 AM
    Reply to: Message 1125 by Faith
    04-05-2019 10:11 AM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Faith writes:
    The answers have already been given. See Message 1094, Message 1097, Message 1098,Message 1101 and probably others.
    This is one of your common MO's - make an unsupported claim, then when people persist in asking you to support the claim you assert that you already supported the claim in previous messages. You never actually support the claim. You don't even know what supporting a claim looks like.
    --Percy

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    Faith 
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    Message 1140 of 5796 (850321)
    04-06-2019 10:45 AM
    Reply to: Message 1139 by Percy
    04-06-2019 7:43 AM


    Re: More attacks on the nation
    Oh I do sometimes support the claim and thought I did now too. But let me list a few of the Leftist anti-American attitudes. Belief in socialism, which is contrary to how this country built its wealth and prosperity and will only destroy it. The current political attacks on a duly elected President which is a total failure of our formerly much admired "peaceful transition" and utter disrespect of the other half of the voting public. Sheer political hatred. As we on the Right knew, there was no Russian collusion and Mueller said so when his report was given to Barr. Of course the Left is now bending over backwards to try to prove that is false as if Mueller would have lied about his own report. So now we have claims that people in Mueller's office are saying the report is a lot worse than originally presented. It will never stop. There was no collusion and no obstruction of justice but they are going to claim there was until the public is so convinced they manage to bring down Trump. Fake news is Leftist mo, any kind of insinuation completely made up will do. There is no more free press in America, it's all social activism, pure politics in service of the Left. Their willingness to let the country be overrun by aliens is destructive, all for political gain. They want to destroy the electoral college which was one of the Founders' insurances against such political manipulations. They have no respect for free speech except their own free speech. I'm sure I'll think of more.
    Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
    Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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