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JonF
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Message 1141 of 5796 (850322)
04-06-2019 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1140 by Faith
04-06-2019 10:45 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Attitudes are not crimes. Actions that break laws are.
The upshot is you don't have any evidence for your hallucinations.

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ringo
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Message 1142 of 5796 (850325)
04-06-2019 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1140 by Faith
04-06-2019 10:45 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Faith writes:
The current political attacks on a duly elected President....
By duly elected members of Congress, whose job it is. Ever hear of "checks and balances"?
Faith writes:
...utter disrespect of the other half of the voting public.
And your half is disrespecting the other half by accusing them of trying to destroy the nation.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Percy
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Message 1143 of 5796 (850355)
04-06-2019 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1140 by Faith
04-06-2019 10:45 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Faith writes:
Oh I do sometimes support the claim and thought I did now too. But let me list a few of the Leftist anti-American attitudes.
All you do is go on to repeat your unsupported opinions.
Belief in socialism, which is contrary to how this country built its wealth and prosperity and will only destroy it.
What do you mean by socialism? State ownership of business and industry? If so, no one is advocating that.
But if by socialism you mean things like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, affordable healthcare, a living wage, etc., then that's what those on the left are advocating.
The current political attacks on a duly elected President which is a total failure of our formerly much admired "peaceful transition" and utter disrespect of the other half of the voting public.
Presidents have been criticized since the beginning of the republic.
Sheer political hatred.
I think you have a lot of trouble keeping your emotions out of your politics.
As we on the Right knew, there was no Russian collusion and Mueller said so when his report was given to Barr.
We know there was collusion, just evidently not, according to Attorney General Will Barr, court-level provable. There's the Trump Tower meeting, there's Manafort (a convicted felon) sharing polling data with a Russian with ties to Russian intelligence, there's Roger Stone's indictment for lying about his interactions with Wikileaks, there's the firing of James Comey to make the Russia investigation go away, there's Michael Flynn pleading guilty to lying about his meetings with the Russian ambassador, there's Trump inviting the Russians to hack government computers, there's Trump's team causing anti-Russian language to be removed from the Republican platform.
Of course the Left is now bending over backwards to try to prove that is false as if Mueller would have lied about his own report.
No one outside of the Justice Department has seen the report. You're actually referring to what Attorney General William Barr, appointed by Trump to whitewash the results of the Mueller investigation, said about the Mueller report.
So now we have claims that people in Mueller's office are saying the report is a lot worse than originally presented. It will never stop.
Sure it will stop - when the truth comes out. Obviously we don't have the truth yet.
There was no collusion and no obstruction of justice but they are going to claim there was until the public is so convinced they manage to bring down Trump.
There was both collusion *and* obstruction of justice.
Fake news is Leftist mo, any kind of insinuation completely made up will do.
Fake news is what is fake. The mainstream media is not making up what it is reporting. Many times they're just quoting or streaming Trump, someone in his administration, or a Republican member of Congress. For example, did not Trump say that he was going to close the border with Mexico very soon, and replace Obamacare this year, then change his mind the very next day, just as the media reported, including Fox News?
There is no more free press in America, it's all social activism, pure politics in service of the Left.
If there is no free press and only liberal outlets are permitted, how do you explain Fox News and the Sinclair network and Rush Limbaugh and so forth?
Their willingness to let the country be overrun by aliens is destructive, all for political gain.
Unless you're a native American, at some point in the past yours was a family of immigrants. And even native Americans were immigrants at one time - they just have the honor of being the first.
They want to destroy the electoral college which was one of the Founders' insurances against such political manipulations.
I don't think liberals and Democrats are all of one opinion about the electoral college.
They have no respect for free speech except their own free speech.
You have no evidence of censorship.
I'm sure I'll think of more.
I don't know about that, but I'm sure you'll make up more.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Grammar.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1144 of 5796 (850356)
04-06-2019 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1140 by Faith
04-06-2019 10:45 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Oh I do sometimes support the claim and thought I did now too. But let me list a few of the Leftist anti-American attitudes. Belief in socialism, which is contrary to how this country built its wealth and prosperity and will only destroy it. The current political attacks on a duly elected President which is a total failure of our formerly much admired "peaceful transition" and utter disrespect of the other half of the voting public. Sheer political hatred. As we on the Right knew, there was no Russian collusion and Mueller said so when his report was given to Barr. Of course the Left is now bending over backwards to try to prove that is false as if Mueller would have lied about his own report. So now we have claims that people in Mueller's office are saying the report is a lot worse than originally presented. It will never stop. There was no collusion and no obstruction of justice but they are going to claim there was until the public is so convinced they manage to bring down Trump. Fake news is Leftist mo, any kind of insinuation completely made up will do. There is no more free press in America, it's all social activism, pure politics in service of the Left. Their willingness to let the country be overrun by aliens is destructive, all for political gain. They want to destroy the electoral college which was one of the Founders' insurances against such political manipulations. They have no respect for free speech except their own free speech. I'm sure I'll think of more.
I almost feel sorry for you. But not quite.

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Faith 
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Message 1145 of 5796 (850405)
04-07-2019 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1144 by Dr Adequate
04-06-2019 5:36 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
I'm bad at remembering sources since most of them are from the radio, but you all should listen some time, they have all the evidence. Mark Levin is particularly good, but there's also Hannity and Rush and Ben Shapiro and Michael Savage and Sebastian Gorka and Lars Larson and Jim Bohannan and Joe Pags and Laura Ingraham and lots of others who get it right.
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JonF
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Message 1146 of 5796 (850406)
04-07-2019 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1145 by Faith
04-07-2019 10:57 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
IOW there's no evidence for your claims.

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Percy
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Message 1147 of 5796 (850415)
04-07-2019 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1145 by Faith
04-07-2019 10:57 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Faith writes:
I'm bad at remembering sources since most of them are from the radio, but you all should listen some time, they have all the evidence. Mark Levin is particularly good, but there's also Hannity and Rush and Ben Shapiro and Michael Savage and Sebastian Gorka and Lars Larson and Jim Bohannan and Joe Pags and Laura Ingraham and lots of others who get it right.
Let's see how many of these people are reporting actual news:
Mark LevinConservative radio show host
Deep state conspiracy theorist
Sean HannityConservative television show host
Promoter of falsehoods
All round conspiracy theorist
Rush LimbaughConservative radio show host
Deep state and false-flag conspiracy theorist
Ben ShapiroConservative syndicated columnist and radio show host
Michael SavageConservative radio show host
Advocate of white genocide conspiracy theory
Sebastian GorkaConservative radio show host
Marginally qualified former Trump administration official
Islamophobe
Member of Nazi organization Order of Vitéz
Anti-semite
Lars LarsonConservative radio show host
Jim BohannonMostly moderate radio show host
Joe PagsConservative television and radio show host
Laura IngrahamConservative television and radio show host
Advocate of white genocide conspiracy theory
These are all conservative (with the exception of Jim Bohannon) radio and television show hosts offering their opinions on issues of the day. Many of them promote conspiracy theories. I doubt they offer very many facts supporting their views, but to the extent they do it is your job to bring those facts forward into this thread in order to support what you say. From the Forum Guidelines:
  1. Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
--Percy

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ringo
Member (Idle past 412 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 1148 of 5796 (850420)
04-07-2019 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1145 by Faith
04-07-2019 10:57 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Faith writes:
I'm bad at remembering sources since most of them are from the radio, but you all should listen some time, they have all the evidence.
How can they present evidence on the radio?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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JonF
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Message 1149 of 5796 (850422)
04-07-2019 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1145 by Faith
04-07-2019 10:57 AM


Re: More attacks on the nation
So next time you listen to the radio, pick a subject and write down or otherwise record the claim and their evidence and bring that here.
Or, many shows put recordings on the Web. Some even have transcripts. Pick one and do as above.

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Faith 
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Message 1150 of 5796 (850423)
04-07-2019 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1147 by Percy
04-07-2019 2:08 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Woah, is that list of talk show hosts a perfect example of Leftist fake news! What a perfect example of Leftist smears, and you accept it as fact. You've probably never listened to a one of them. They are all upright good people who don't deserve such treatment, and this kind of smear campaign against conservatives is a main element of exactly what I mean by how the Left is going to bring down the country. The nation can't stand much more of this evil.
I may look up the claims later, but it hardly looks worth the time it's such a bunch of PC namecalling which I know is all false.
Mark Levin has written some great books that you ought to take a look at: Men in Black, about the Supreme Court, Liberty and Tyranny, about how the Left is destroying the liberty this nation was founded on and replacing it with socialist tyranny, and his latest that is coming out in May: Unfreedom of the Press. Can't think of one I'm forgetting. Dare you to read any of them. But he's not the only one of the list to have written good books, it's just that I'm most interested in his at the moment. A couple of Michael Savage's sound good too though.
Reminds me of a fake news case that keeps going around about Trump though it is totally false: the idea that he supports white supremacists based on his statement in connection with the demonstration in Charlottesville that there are "good people on both sides." In context it is very clear he was talking about the issue of preserving or removing Confederate statues, not referring to the white supremacists or any person or group there at the moment. Yes there ARE good people on both sides of the issue about the statues, many who aren't even remotely white supremacists, and that is all he meant. But of course the fake news persists because that's what the Left does, it has no interest in the truth, certainly no interest in respecting their political opponents and other human beings, only in smearing Trump and his supporters. Which is clearly also what the Leftists who wrote the descriptions of the talk show hosts also intended. There isn't a shred of truth in any of it, it just shows the evil character of those who wrote it.
You wanted examples of fake news, there's one, or actually more than one. You have a penchant for putting out quotes you treat as facts that are actually fake news, as well as the evidence that supposedly supports them, a real inclination toward the Left I'd say. Opinion and innuendo are where it starts.
It's also where the Mueller probe started. There was no criminal charge for them to investigate, which is the usual starting point for such an investigation, it was all somebody's snarky statement based on nothing whatever, that Trump must have colluded with Russia. I think it may have come from Hillary who is in fact the real colluder with Russia which I hope will eventually be exposed for all to see.
So Mueller himself said there was no collusion with Russia on Trump's part or anyone in his campaign and now the Left can't give up the idea that has dominated their thinking for over two years and has to go to great lengths to "prove" that somebody is lying because there must have been collusion. Such as the Trump tower event which you mentioned. Don't you think Mueller covered that? If he thought it involved collusion he would have said so. Oh and somebody who ought to know, a political leader from New York, said not to expect the judicial efforts there to show anything against Trump either.
I have a brief description of my idea of fake news on the fossil thread earlier too: Message 23.
I agree I'm bad at producing sources and evidence but there is some. but how dare you produce that list of character assassinations and tell me I have to produce evidence against it. How dare you. You claim you aren't on the Left, but you are a shill for the Left at least. Yuck.
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DrJones*
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Message 1151 of 5796 (850424)
04-07-2019 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1150 by Faith
04-07-2019 6:29 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
n context it is very clear he was talking about the issue of preserving or removing Confederate statues,
Confederate statues celebrate the people who kept slaves and became traitors to the United States of America in order to keep keeping slaves. Fuck the confederacy, there are no good people on that side.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Faith 
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Message 1152 of 5796 (850425)
04-07-2019 6:56 PM
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04-07-2019 6:50 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
There are plenty of good people on the side of preserving our historical heritage, and erasing it also suggests something along the lines of soviet communist censorship. However, he was not referring to white supremacists, only to those who want to preserve our historical heritage which includes millions of Americans. There were good men in the Confederacy too, no matter what an alien like you thinks, or any other idiot Leftist.
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DrJones*
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Message 1153 of 5796 (850429)
04-07-2019 10:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1152 by Faith
04-07-2019 6:56 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
There are plenty of good people on the side of preserving our historical heritage, and erasing it also suggests something along the lines of soviet communist censorship.
The germans manage to preserve their history without putting up statues of hitler.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Faith 
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Message 1154 of 5796 (850430)
04-07-2019 10:08 PM
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04-07-2019 10:00 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Robert E. Lee was no Hitler. To make such a comparison is to be a Class A ignoramus. I think he was a friend of Lincoln's too IIRC, and I don't think he even supported slavery but he fought for his homeland as he should. They were honorable people in those days.

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DrJones*
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Message 1155 of 5796 (850431)
04-07-2019 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1154 by Faith
04-07-2019 10:08 PM


Re: More attacks on the nation
Robert E. Lee was no Hitler.
He just fought for a system that viewed other human beings as inferior and which sought to keep them as property and profit off their misery.
I don't think he even supported slavery
he owned slaves. And even though his feelings on the matter of slavery were mixed he still viewed blacks as inferior to whites
They were honorable people in those days
Honorable people who wanted to keep other humans as slaves.
in short: Fuck robert e lee, and the rest of the sister fucking hillbillies who would defend the confederacy.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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