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JonF
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Message 1231 of 1376 (850680)
04-12-2019 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1228 by Faith
04-11-2019 9:37 PM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
So why did he lie and say he had none?
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Faith
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Message 1232 of 1376 (850686)
04-12-2019 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1231 by JonF
04-12-2019 8:50 AM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
Why do you all always have to smear good people like Barr by twisting everything he says? As I got it he believes there is reason to believe there may be evidence he should investigate. Not that it's a slam dunk but that there is enough there to warrant checking it out. Sheesh.
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ringo
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Message 1233 of 1376 (850689)
04-12-2019 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1232 by Faith
04-12-2019 11:31 AM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
Faith writes:

... he believes there is reason to believe there may be evidence he should investigate. Not that it's a slam dunk but that there is enough there to warrant checking it out.


But you know better. You know there's nothing to it. You should tell him not to bother looking.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith
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Message 1234 of 1376 (850690)
04-12-2019 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1230 by dwise1
04-12-2019 3:29 AM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
So Barr assumes that there should be evidence of "spying" (ignoring his attempts at falsely equivocating that with legitimate surveillance prompted by legitimate concerns), even though there is no actual evidence to base that on.

He's read the report and other reports. He knows there's reason to believe there was spying on the Trump campaign. What needs investigation is whether that was legal or not.

Yet you routinely castigate the other side for the same thing and less. And you expect us to cut you slack that you unequivocally deny us? Fuck you, you hypocrite!

I have no idea what you are referring to. Would it EVER be possible for you to tone down the lefty righteous rage? It's often completely misplaced and I fear you are going to rip a blood vessel. After over two years of investigation into Trump while the press headlined all sorts of fake news alleging he was guilty of all kinds of horrific things including "treason," when in the end he was cleared of the insinuation of "collusion" -- nothing was ever actually charged against him -- I hardly think you are in a position to say anything at all against Barr's reasonable intention to investigate the other side.

You want the investigation to make the case?

I thought I was making an innocent comment about the position Barr is in. He believes there is enough evidence to deserve an investigation, and only after that would he be able to judge the case. Perfectly reasonable it seems to me.

We want the same thing. We want to know what Mueller's findings are.

But in your case the investigation is over, the report has been submitted and the principal findings have been stated: no collusion by Trump and his campaign. You just refuse to accept it. Most likely when you get to see more of the report it won't say anything different but you'll still be insisting you need to know something you imagine it should have said instead.

We want to know what Trump's tax returns reveal.

But it's none of your business. Nobody's tax returns are public business. You just want to dig in them to see if you can fish out something more to complain about. But since he's so wealthy Trump's taxes are being audited perpetually and if there was something there to feed the Left's insatiable appetite to find something criminal in his life we'd have known it by now.

And yet your side keeps trying to keep that secret. Why?

Because we know the demand is illegal and futile anyway.

Why are you all so afraid of the truth? Because you already know that the truth will only incriminate you?

It's the opposite, we know it would be an illegal fishing expedition that would only be fodder for more fake news that would drag on for years without producing anything. Like the Mueller report that the media used to invent crimes that in the end we know didn't exist though they made a big show of fake legal issues. We believe he has a right to keep his personal business to himself. But I know you just HAVE to be suspicious cuz that's what the Left does.

In the campaign, Trump made a big show that anyone who pleads the Fifth Amendment has something to hide and so is automatically guilty.

Those are people who are charged with a crime. He's not been charged with anything, just insinuations and suspiciousness.

Yet when Trump does the same thing and far worse,

He's done nothing of the sort. All of Trump's misbehavior is in the minds of Leftists, it's all fake news. There's no legal reason for any of it.

you are completely fine with that, you fucking hypocrite.

Do leftists ever stop accusing their opponents of evil things based only on their imagination? You have no cause to attack me like this.

Have you actually read the Bible? Or even just the New Testament? Or even just the Gospels? Are you really that completely ignorant of what Jesus thought of hypocrites?

I'm not the hypocrite though. False accusations of the Lefty sort violate more of the Bible than anything even you could dream up to accuse me of.

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Message 1235 of 1376 (850691)
04-12-2019 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1234 by Faith
04-12-2019 11:55 AM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
Do leftists ever stop accusing their opponents of evil things based only on their imagination? You have no cause to attack me like this.

Stunning truly stunning. I would attribute it to a complete lack of self awareness, but I truly believe we are in the presence of the Queen Mother of all trolls. We should all bow down to such greatness.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Faith
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Message 1236 of 1376 (850697)
04-12-2019 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1235 by Theodoric
04-12-2019 12:17 PM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
Such an ad hominem fails to communicate anything. I wonder if you could be more specific about what I'm being accused of?
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dwise1
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Message 1237 of 1376 (850707)
04-12-2019 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1236 by Faith
04-12-2019 1:27 PM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
He's saying that you are projecting all your own evil on those broad-brushed "leftists", which apparently just means anyone who doesn't agree with you.
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Faith
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Message 1238 of 1376 (850709)
04-12-2019 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1237 by dwise1
04-12-2019 5:45 PM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
That is really not at all clarifying. Nothing more specific than that?
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Message 1239 of 1376 (850711)
04-12-2019 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1238 by Faith
04-12-2019 6:42 PM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
It's crystal clear to me.

Specifics? Every post unjustifiably attacking the many groups you hate, every post mindlessly repeating debunked right wing lies as an excuse for your hostility. That is, 98%of your posts. Pick any one.


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Percy
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Message 1240 of 1376 (850750)
04-13-2019 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1228 by Faith
04-11-2019 9:37 PM


Re: Dems Attack Barr for Remark about Spying on Trump Campaign
Faith writes:

Percy writes:

Faith writes:

There has actually been plenty of evidence of spying that came out in 2016.

If there were evidence then Attorney General William Barr would have said there was evidence during his testimony before Congress, instead of saying the opposite. You're responding to my message that contains a short video clip of Barr actually saying he has no evidence, just concerns.

I suspect he's pretty sure there is evidence there, but he has to do the investigation to find out for sure and to make the case.

On what basis do you suspect he's pretty sure there's evidence there while not saying so, thereby creating the strong suspicion he's on a fishing expedition. Hemming and hawing like this only contributed to that impression, you only need to watch 15 seconds:

From your previous Message 1217:

Faith in Message 1217 writes:

It wasn't Carlson or Hannity though, I believe it was Mark Levin who gave lots of evidence with dates.

Can you describe all this evidence that Mark Levin gave, or explain why Barr is unaware of it, or why, given all this evidence, the Justice Department wasn't already investigating before Barr ever became Attorney General. If so much evidence actually existed, wouldn't William Sessions have jumped at the chance to initiate an investigation that Trump would have loved, perhaps thereby saving his job?

--Percy


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Faith
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Message 1241 of 1376 (850812)
04-14-2019 4:54 PM


Pro Life Movie a big success
"Unplanned" gets a big premiere and the red carpet treatment, a first for a pro-life film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AODMlotauwQ

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ringo
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Message 1242 of 1376 (850834)
04-15-2019 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1241 by Faith
04-14-2019 4:54 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
Faith writes:

"Unplanned" gets a big premiere and the red carpet treatment, a first for a pro-life film.


What? No conspiracy to supress it? I'm going to bring that up at the next atheist meeting.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith
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Message 1243 of 1376 (850837)
04-15-2019 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1242 by ringo
04-15-2019 12:10 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
Most Christian movies are low budget and not very well made so no great effort at suppression is needed. I think this one may be a big exception. I'm hoping it's as good as the trailer suggests it is. I won't get to see it until it shows up for rent at Amazon. The crowd on the red carpet was strikingly Christian, a lot of God talk; nice to see. For me anyway.

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ringo
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Message 1244 of 1376 (850838)
04-15-2019 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1243 by Faith
04-15-2019 1:30 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
It doesn't look like anything I'd want to see. I already know the anti-abortion propaganda. (And I'll remind you that I am NOT "pro-abortion".)

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith
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Message 1245 of 1376 (850839)
04-15-2019 1:56 PM
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04-15-2019 1:48 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
I keep watching You Tube interviews about it. Lots of people think they know "the anti-abortion propaganda" but apparently there are lots of people who thought they knew and didn't know until they saw the movie. Of course you may be the exception and wouldn't learn anything from seeing it.\

I know it all too but I remember the day very well when a pro-life video was shown at my church and I cried for days after seeing it. Even if there's nothing new to me in this one I'll probably cry a lot after seeing it. I don't think people cry about losing a "piece of tissue."

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