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Author | Topic: Is Tithing an ancient Israelite law ALONE or is it a post-Easter law too? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Don't be disingenuous. It doesn't matter whether it was made up centuries ago or yesterday. It was made up. It isn't in the Bible.
Don't believe what Faith says about the vast majority of theologians that agree with her. The agreement is far from complete. And many of them wouldn't be "True Christians" anyway by Faith's standards. She's inclusive when she wants to inflate the numbers but very exclusive when it comes to specific issues.
There is no necessity to know the messenger. In real life, you know that. You don't keep every envellope that comes in the mail, do you? You know that it's only the message that matters, so why do you keep bringing up that nonsense?
Why don't you take a leap of faith instead of understanding how a bridge works? And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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jar Member Posts: 33126 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
But Faith and the whole Biblical Inerrancy cult claim that God directed or wrote all the material in the Bible. Faith claimed in the post I was replying to that God directed and controlled the canon.
The fact is that there is not one canon but rather many different canons and as I pointed out, the ONLY books that are common to ALL of the Christian Canons are the first five books of the OLD TESTAMENT and none of the New Testament is common to all Christian Canons.
Well, what does the evidence show?
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
I submit that we ourselves are the evidence. What do we show?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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jar Member Posts: 33126 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.4 |
But it is the Socialist Workers Party that is most likely to see that you get a retirement, health care, a union, and food & clothing. Which brings us to tithing. Which group is more likely to support modern tithing, the Republicans or the Socialist Workers Party?
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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
You've never shown any difference.
Nonsense. You know exactly who the work is for.
The "integrity and wisdom" is made up. From past performance, we know that your God is a mass murderer. And the doctrines that you attribute to him are utterly, utterly stupid. "Kill my son and we'll call it even," is so infernally stupid that you should throw up when you claim to believe it. The drunk asking for spare change has far more integrity and wisdom than your God. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
So, in other words, you work for the people. As I told jar, the socialists will never make a better world by forcingus to support all of us. Without the 90% wealth of the top 5% it wont happen. Only God can change the human heart. We wont simply go to work for the people and believe that it will all turn out ok. It wont.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
You're wrong. They already have.
Wrong again. THAT has been demonstrated not to work. Look at the number of Christians in prison, for example. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Faith ![]() Suspended Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not only are there different canons there are bogus "original manuscripts" of the Bible too, even the very earliest ones. There are heretics in every generation who influence such things, but God has preserved His word nevertheless. Our job is spiritual discernment. If you regard all those products as equal you are certainly going to be utterly unable to reoognize the truth. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
look at the number of any group in prison...aside from perhaps Orthodox Jews, they are all represented numerically.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
Better check your facts. But the point is that if God changes hearts, as you claim, there should be disproportionately fewer Christians in prison. If He was any good at it, there should be none at all. Conclusion: "God changes hearts" is an empty claim. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Phat Member Posts: 14881 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: |
The ones who have unregenerate hearts likely ignored the messenger and made up their own message. To your credit, humans can and do make up good messages to themselves also...but I would argue that it is evidence of a changed or changing heart. Not everyone has good motives.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8 |
That doesn't even make sense. It's the one's who put importance on the messenger who are making up their own message. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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