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Author Topic:   Bible Inerrancy stands against all objections
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Message 56 of 232 (842058)
10-26-2018 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
10-22-2018 5:28 PM


The Chicago Statement of Faith is based on willful dishonesty.
The Chicago Statement of Faith begins with willfull dishonesty and depends on the willful ignorance of the audience.

The very first paragraph sets the argument and makes it clear that it is based on the total denial of reality and factual evidence and instead is totally dependent on the dogma of the Cult.

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The authority of Scripture is a key issue for the Christian church in this and every age. Those who profess faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior are called to show the reality of their discipleship by humbly and faithfully obeying God's written Word. To stray from Scripture in faith or conduct is disloyalty to our Master. Recognition of the total truth and trustworthiness of Holy Scripture is essential to a full grasp and adequate confession of its authority.

It is a position based not just on dishonesty and ignorance but rather on an active and willful adoption of dishonesty and ignorance and a basic life choice.


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Message 59 of 232 (842083)
10-26-2018 11:48 AM
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10-26-2018 10:05 AM


Re: The Chicago Statement of Faith is based on willful dishonesty.
Faith writes:

Actually it's based on the historical understanding of inerrancy whether that sits well with your personal judgment or not.

Yet you provide no evidence that was actually true and even if it were true that would not change the fact that it begins with an assertion that the base is a willful denial of reality and honesty.

Faith writes:

And the men who put it together are leaders of evangelicalism whether that sits well with your judgment or not.

Correct, it was put together a covin of "True Believers" and "Fellow Travelers". That does not change the fact that it begins with an assertion that the base is a willful denial of reality and honesty.


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Message 97 of 232 (842226)
10-28-2018 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
10-27-2018 3:14 PM


Re: Word of God is both Christ and Scripture
Faith writes:

We are to PUT OUR TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST'S DEATH ON THE CROSS TO PAY FOR OUR SINS.

And that is the greatest and safest con of all time, a Constitutionally protected con job without even any fear of claims of false advertising or of product liability.

It's the ultimate "Get Outta Hell Free" con. It is a perversion of everything Jesus is claimed to have taught and diminishes Jesus life and ministry to little more than left over discarded BBQ.


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Message 117 of 232 (842295)
10-29-2018 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
10-28-2018 4:09 PM


Re: Martin Luther told us humans not to compromise scripture with (heliocentric) science.
Faith writes:

Death entered with sin, scripture says that.

Paul is alleged to say that but no where in the rest of the Bible is there any evidence that is true and there is lots of evidence in the Bible that that is simply not true.

Paul's unsupported assertion is simply more evidence that the Bible is not Inerrant and that Biblical Innerancy is a dogma based on willful Ignorance and Dishonesty.

There is NO Fall in the Bible and that too is simply evidence of the dishonesty of "Biblical" Christianity.


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Message 121 of 232 (842321)
10-29-2018 2:25 PM
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10-29-2018 3:59 AM


Re: The Fall
Faith writes:

They did die, as a result of the Fall, they physically died, they were no longer immortal, but death began right away with the death of powers and capacities they had previously had.

Utter Bullshit Faith and totally non-Biblical. You really refuse to actually read the Bible just like so many "Biblical Christians"

Adam & Eve were NEVER immortal according to the Genesis 2&3 myth, death existed before they were even created according to the Genesis 2&3 myth and they lost no powers but rather gained powers they had not had before according to the Genesis 2&3 myth.

But please keep providing evidence that Biblical Inerrancy is simply dishonest, based on ignorance and denial of what is actually written in the Bible and the assumption that the followers are incapable of reason or connecting with reality.

Also, in case you had not noticed, but the Westminster Catechism is also not the Bible but rather like the Chicago Statement of Faith another example of defining dogma, in the case of the Westminster Catechism to try to hide the contradictions between the Scottish and English Protestant churches. It is as much political as theological.

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Message 123 of 232 (842335)
10-29-2018 5:16 PM
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10-29-2018 2:57 PM


Re: The Fall
Faith writes:

They aren't given status anywhere near equal to the Bible of course, but they are considered to be very important learning tools that express the beliefs adhered to by believers.

They express the beliefs adhered to by those who believe those things; in other words, the dogma.

BUT they are not Biblical and there is NO Fall in the Bible and Adam & Eve were never immortal and Death entered the world before Adam & Eve were created and they lost no powers but instead became more like God and THOSE facts are Biblical.


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Message 129 of 232 (842398)
10-30-2018 6:42 PM
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10-30-2018 5:55 PM


Re: Biblical Inerrancy is a fraud
Anyone that believed Jesus taught moral principles would know that Jesus said reality supersedes God's Laws and even God agreed that mere common courtesy is sufficient justification for ignoring God's Laws.

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Message 140 of 232 (842484)
11-01-2018 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Faith
11-01-2018 3:15 PM


Faith, have you ever honestly read the Bible?
Faith writes:

Not really weird. Plants don't bleed. They were specifically made for eating but animals only became food for humans after the Flood, although many had become carnivores at the Fall, preying on each other. The "hucksters" are being true to scripture when they say all animals were vegetarian before the Fall. There is another clue in the fact that at the New Creation "the lion will lie down with the lamb" and all animals will again eat plants.

Too funny.

And where is the evidence to support such utter ridiculous assertions Faith?

Where is there a Fall in the Bible?

Where is there evidence animals became carnivore after the Flood?

For that matter, which Biblical Flood are you pointing to or are you still denying the fact there are two mutually exclusive Biblical Flood stories in the Bible?


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Message 141 of 232 (842485)
11-01-2018 3:24 PM
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11-01-2018 3:19 PM


Faith provides more evidence of the dishonesty of Biblical Inerrancy.
Faith writes:

Inerrancy is attributed only to the original autographs, which are of course no longer in existence.

And since they do not exist and no one knows what they said then the whole basis of Biblical Inerrancy is shown to be utter fraud and dishonesty and willful ignorance.

It is simply a con job to fool the rubes; but at least it is a Constitutionally Protected fraud.

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