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Author Topic:   Bible Inerrancy stands against all objections
Aussie
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Message 134 of 232 (842462)
11-01-2018 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Faith
10-27-2018 3:09 PM


Re: Discussing Bible contradictions to examine Bible Inerrancy
I don't say the KJV is inerrant, it's a translation, translations aren't inerrant. I thought you wanted to know what translation I use.

Hi Faith,

All we have are translations of translations of copies of copies of copies...there is literally nothing else!

What version of the Scripture that we actually have is certifiably inerrant?


"...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"

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Aussie
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Message 136 of 232 (842464)
11-01-2018 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by PaulK
10-28-2018 3:52 AM


Re: Discussing Bible contradictions to examine Bible Inerrancy
Let us also note that there are significant discrepancies in the Nativity stories, the genealogies of Jesus and - quite damningly - the accounts of the post-resurrection appearances. To name just three examples from the Gospels and Acts.

If you hadn't said this, I was going to jump all over it. I predict Faith is going to ignore your questions as long as possible, then dismiss them out of hand with a thoughtless, one-sentence post.

Faith, please PLEASE answer this carefully! These are important questions that get to the heart of your position on Biblical inerrancy. This could answer a hundred questions in one fell swoop.

Thanks!


"...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"

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Aussie
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Message 137 of 232 (842465)
11-01-2018 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by ringo
10-28-2018 3:53 PM


Re: Martin Luther told us humans not to compromise scripture with (heliocentric) science.
No it doesn't. The idea of no death is barely plausible but not supported by the text. The idea of a "fall" is directly contradictory to the text.

To be fair to Faith, Scripture does support her assertion. You have to go to the book of Romans, chapter 5 to find it though. In the passage the author is comparing Adam's legacy to that of Jesus. " Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned..." I don't have the whole passage memorized, but you see the point.

This is where the hucksters like Ken Ham and Kent Hovind say the lions, hyenas, and T-Rex were vegetarian; because to be a carnivore you have to kill, but there is no death yet. Although plants are also living things that must be destroyed for the continued survival of another. So, weird thing that.


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Aussie
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From: Sanford, FL USA
Joined: 10-02-2006


Message 147 of 232 (842526)
11-02-2018 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by ringo
11-02-2018 11:40 AM


Re: Martin Luther told us humans not to compromise scripture with (heliocentric) science.
According to the story, Adam was the first man so yes, he did "bring sin into the world." How else would it begin? And yes, he did "bring death into the world" - for humans. That's a simple mathematical necessity, not a basis for doctrine.

I hear you, and trust me, I'm with you 100%. The story itself is an absurdity in my opinion; and to try to shoehorn doctrine into an already absurd story is truly a spectacular leap of blindness. The only point I was making there was that in the Creationist mind it seems perfectly consistent to say there was no death before Adam's sin, according to the author of Romans. The text doesn't mention "For humans," specifically, so they extend it to all living creatures, except plants for some weird reason. As if they don't also die.


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