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Author Topic:   Bible Inerrancy stands against all objections
vimesey
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Message 176 of 232 (847892)
01-29-2019 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Faith
11-08-2018 6:00 PM


Re: Replying to several of your messages...
The taking of an INNOCENT human life is wrong, it's murder; the execution of a murderer is just.

So when a society with the death penalty, executes someone who later evidence shows is innocent, then that person has been murdered, yes ?

In those circumstances, who should be executed for murdering that innocent person ?


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 178 of 232 (847925)
01-29-2019 3:54 PM
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01-29-2019 3:44 PM


Re: Replying to several of your messages...
I find it hard not to call it murder. We’re human - we’re going to make mistakes - that is 100% inevitable.

As a result, if a country goes for the death penalty, then that decision is going to be taken in the sure and certain knowledge that it will lead to the deaths of innocent people.

The significant majority of the research I have read indicates that the death penalty does not deter capital crimes more than life imprisonment. On that basis, there is no gain to be had from taking a decision which will kill innocent people.

I can’t distinguish that from murder.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 180 of 232 (847929)
01-29-2019 4:12 PM
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01-29-2019 4:07 PM


Re: death penalty.
But the decision to have the death penalty is not an accident - that’s a deliberate choice.

The analogy would be an adult giving toddlers some copper wire and access to live electrical sockets. The toddlers will make mistakes and get electrocuted - but the adult will rightly be punished for having taken the decision which will inevitably lead to accidental deaths.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 182 of 232 (847935)
01-29-2019 4:24 PM
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01-29-2019 4:17 PM


Re: death penalty.
Better job, to a degree, yes - but never so good as to eliminate human error. Unless you are of the view that humans are capable of acting perfectly and without error, of course.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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