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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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You answered your own question. Why think when you can have a commentator do it for you?
If you put a baby and a barbecue in front of some "inerrantists", they'd need a YouTube video to tell them what to do with them. Hippopotamus.
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AlexCaledin Member (Idle past 220 days) Posts: 63 From: Samara, Russia Joined: |
Bible is alright, it just tells that the Heaven-and-Earth system is the visually programmed one, used by the Creator. To us, the Choice is given, to play the godly or godless game. Of course, if you are a program not believing in the Programmer, then you see all the software evolving from the hard disk primordial magnetization.
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AlexCaledin Member (Idle past 220 days) Posts: 63 From: Samara, Russia Joined: |
Bible is alright, it just tells that the Heaven-and-Earth system is the visually programmed one, used by the Creator. To us, the Choice is given, to play the godly or godless game. Of course, if you are a program not believing in the Programmer, then you see all the software evolving from the hard disk primordial magnetization.
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ringo Member Posts: 18854 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.8
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I think you'll find that most programs work just fine without believing in the programmer. All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Sarah Bellum Member Posts: 700 Joined: |
In my view, deciding how to live one's life isn't really "that simple". It requires learning and thinking conscientiously. "Inerrancy" (again, this is just my view), leads one down the proverbial primrose path, causing one to ignore that need for reasoning.
At it worst, we find that good people usually do good things, while bad people can do bad things, but to persuade good people to do bad things requires that lack of reason, whether from religion or some totalitarian ideology.
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Stile Member Posts: 4018 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 4.4
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Fair enough, and I agree. I was attempting to say that the concept/description is simple: "Don't worry, be happy!" 4 words. Pretty simple.
Agreed.
To me, this is as-defined.
Yeah. I find morality fascinating. But I've also identified that most people are not so fascinated with morality. They don't generally care why or the root-cause to such labels - just as long as they are not viewed in a negative/awkward manner by their every-day peers. But... that's only my subjective, anecdotal view. I have no data to support it. Your mileage may vary.
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GDR Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 5409 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: |
You want to boil everything down into cryptic little sentences. Christ's message of love is simple enough but theology, not so much. You then dumb down the theology and in doing so you wind up twisting Jesus' message of love so that it becomes almost unrecognizable. I suggest as evidence I can read back over numerous posts that you have put together here, and I have to say I'm just not feeling the love.
Again a simple yes or no does not answer the question. You have to understand the idea of Jesus dying for our sins within the context of a Jewish 1st century world. The Jews kept praying for the return of Yahweh. They believed that one of the precursors of this was that it would mean that Yahweh had finally forgiven them of their sins. The Jews had believed that when Yahweh returned they would be led in defeat of the enemy, (in this case the Romans), and at the least they would cease to be an occupied nation and would control their own destiny. Beyond that they hoped to be the powerful nation in their world, and that they would have control over other nations. However, before that could happen they would have to be forgiven their sins. Jesus comes along as messiah and says essentially that it isn’t the Romans who are the enemy but that it is the evil that is behind them. He says that the weapon against evil is love and spoke against a military revolution. He tells them that a revolution will bring about the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. It didn’t take supernatural knowledge to predict that. The Romans would do what they always did. In addition Jesus taught that it wasn’t just about a small plot of land in the Middle East but that what He was doing was for the world. You can draw a yes or a no out of that as you please.
I really have no idea how to answer. The substantive part of anyone is their mind. Yes, I believe that Jesus was of one mind with the Father. The Bible is clear that there is a separation between Jesus and the Father. Jesus prayed to the Father and never claimed equality with the God He worshiped and followed. I am a Trinitarian as the “Ancient of Days’ in Daniel enthroned the “Son of Man†over His Kingdom of All Nations. The Temple had always been for the Jews the place where on could go to be in God’s place on Earth and be forgiven their sins but Jesus became a Temple replacement and went around forgiving sins. The Holy Spirit is that part of the Trinity that connects us with the Father and the Son. What do your even mean as the Holy Spirit as a person?
![]() He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8
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