Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2

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Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
What is Atheism? - American Atheists

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Kleinman:

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Since it seems that you understand a little bit of probability theory, why don't you teach biologists about the "at least one" rule and the multiplication rule of probabilities?

dwise1:

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I have. You are the one who refuses to learn.
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And just what the fuck does your "reply" have to do with anything that I had written there?
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Are replies yet another thing that you refuse to understand?
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Stupid troll!

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You're a bit confused dwise1. I know how the "at least one" and the multiplication rule work. I've published papers using those two rules that explain how descent with modification works and it works just fine with experimental examples of biological evolution such as the Kishony and Lenski experiments and explains how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. I thought you might be interested in teaching biologists this math but it is apparent that you see it is hopeless to teach a biologist how biological evolution works.

Kleinman:

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Take Punnett's square or anything else you know about genetics and you still can't explain the evolution of drug resistance or why cancer treatments fail.

Taq:

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I already did that in this thread:
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https://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=msg&t=20319

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When are you going to publish your results and explain how the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments work? Silly boy.

Kleinman:

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Biologists failed at understanding the fundamental principle of descent with modification and adaptation.

Taq:

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No, they didn't. You fail at even the basics of sexual reproduction. That is why you keep bringing up the multiplication rule which does not apply to sexual reproduction.

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Yea, I know, I've read all zero of the publications by biologists that explain how the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments work. And since dwise1 sees it as hopeless to try and teach you any probability theory, random recombination of adaptive alleles is computed using the multiplication rule. You compute the probability by multiplying the frequency of each allele to get the joint probability. I could refer you to a high school probability course if you are interested in learning some introductory probability theory.

No one writes papers explaining how other peoples' experiments work. The Lenski and Kishony papers explain how their experiments work.You do realize that there are more than two papers in existence, right?

Kleinman:

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Do you want me to post the definition of atheism again for you?

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Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about what a person believes. It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
What is Atheism? - American Atheists

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Why don't you just call yourself agnostic?

I am an agnostic. I am also an atheist.

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Agnostic isn’t just a “weaker” version of being an atheist. It answers a different question. Atheism is about what you believe. Agnosticism is about what you know.
What is Atheism? - American Atheists

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Kleinman:

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Let's consider another one of your irrational ideas in more detail, that of ERVs. You claim that humans and chimps share 203,000 ERVs because a common ancestorial lineage had these ERVs before the human and chimp lineages branched.

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Humans have 203,000 ERVs. Period. How much we share with chimps is a separate question. You can't even accept the fact that there are 203,000 ERVs in our genome as detailed in the 2001 human genome paper.

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203,000 retroviral infections to a germ cell line and the lineage does just fine is part of your belief system. You just won't accept the fact that a single retroviral infection may drive the koala population to extinction. And this idea that 8% of the human genome is made up of ERVs ignores the fact of the lethality that a single retroviral infection can have such as HIV. You are spouting nonsense because your understanding of descent with modification has collapsed.

Kleinman:

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When are you going to publish your results and explain how the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments work?

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No one writes papers explaining how other peoples' experiments work.

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Especially because biologists don't know how they work including the people performing the experiment.

Kleinman:

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Yea, I know, I've read all zero of the publications by biologists that explain how the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments work.

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The Lenski and Kishony papers explain how their experiments work.
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You do realize that there are more than two papers in existence, right?

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Now you are imitating ringo. Post the papers that explain those experiments. You won't unless you post my papers because biologists have failed to explain these experiments.

Kleinman:

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Why don't you just call yourself agnostic?

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I am an agnostic. I am also an atheist.

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What do you call a person that doesn't believe that God exists?

Sane

Kleinman:

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What do you call a person that doesn't believe that God exists?

Tangle:

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Sane

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Maybe sane but definitely mathematically incompetent.

Other than the sane part, that's you.We have your papers as evidence. The preponderance of the evidence to be sure.
Mathematically incompetent. CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

Kleinman:

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Maybe sane but definitely mathematically incompetent.

AZPaul3:

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Other than the sane part, that's you.
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We have your papers as evidence. The preponderance of the evidence to be sure.
Mathematically incompetent.

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You still haven't presented any mathematical explanation of the evolution of drug resistance or why cancer treatments fail or a mathematical explanation of the Kishony or Lenski biological evolutionary experiments. You can't even find a single paper written by biologists that give a mathematical explanation of either experiment. Sorry, but your bubble has burst.

Kleinman:

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The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection. -Kleinman
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The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance. - Kleinman

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CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

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Now, here are the papers that explain descent with modification and adaptation that explain the evolution of drug resistance and why cancer treatments fail. They also give the mathematical explanation of the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments (if you include the mathematical explanation for biological competition for the Lenski experiment. Here are the links to those papers:
For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
And one you left out which explains the mathematics of the Lenski experiment:
The Lenski Long Term Evolution ExperimentStudy those links and learn something about the mathematics of biological evolution.

CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.
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The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.

Which one is that? There are thousands. And that's just in your house.Doesn't matter. You are right. God is a most hateful concept no matter what the cult. Nah. Can't hate people. Religion does enough of that in our world.