Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2

So now you think you are smart by letting chatGPT respond for you?How about you prove that nobody on this forum considers common ancestry to be a fact? Because you keep making these unlikely claims without any proof.And also proof that nothing is 100% certain. Because I don't care about your subjective opinions. Prove it or stop posting it as the only valid opinion or the only truth.

You've pretty much captured it. The two things are the fact of evolution and the theory of evolution. What you called "what is observed" is the fact of evolution. What you called "the mechanism of what produced what is observed" is the theory of evolution.The reason it's confusing is because the skepticism of creationism makes no sense. No one talks about atoms as fact and theory because no one doubts that atoms exist, but creationists don't accept that evolution ever happened, so we're forced to talk about the facts of evolution independently of the theory of evolution.--Percy

I'm trying a variety of techniques to persuade you of the reality of your lack of engagement and absence of actual discussion in this thread. In Message 1060 I made clear that I was referring to people in science or here in this thread discussing this with you. Concerning UCA I think most in this thread consider it very likely but not a fact. I agree with Tangle's characterization of it as a hypothesis but a very strong one. There's no such thing as proof within science. Proofs are the realm of mathematics. Science must, by it's very nature as explained excellently well by Granny Magda in Message 1057, can only be tentative. Certainty isn't possible.We're still waiting for you to tell us about all these scientists claiming absolute truth.--Percy

He can't because, I for one, do consider common descent to be a 100% proven fact of evolution. Well, ok, as 100% as science allows, which, at this confidence level is so strong as to allow me to conclude 100% certainty because I damned well want to define it that way whether the universe allows that reality or not. The practical reality is so compelling as to not care about my logic error. Common ancestry, LUCA, is a fact, absolutely.

See reply of Paul. I wonder if you are now man enough to admit that your claim was false and that I was right.

His claim wasn't false. You just do not comprehend humans.My view does not alter what Percy said or implied. I am please it got you so riled. That's a good thing as it was crafted to get in your craw. Besides, you know I made an error in that? You didn't see it? I pointed it out.Regardless.LUCA is a fact. Whether you find me right or wrong means nothing to the fact that LUCA or something very much like that had to occur in practice for what we see today. That makes it a fact. LUCA is a fact.

Are you 12? Are you truly this dense? Notice that no one supports you. Maybe you should take some time and actual read about the subject. You refuse to tell us what your education is. You also may want to learn about logistical fallacies. You use a lot of them. Start with this.
Equivocation - RationalWiki

It's none of your business, as you are of low intellect and have added zero facts here.
You people make false claims, but you continue to hold them as true and ridicule everybody who does not accept these claims. That makes you a bunch of liars and hypocrites. Simple as that!There are people here who see common ancestry as fact, just as I said. Keep denying that as much as you like, but that only proves your utter ignorance.

For God's sake please show us these damn claims! Are they just inside your head?

Learn to read and keep up. You are good at insulting without knowing what the heck you are talking about.

Since you quote nothing I can only guess that you're referring to this: You do know what "most" means, right?We're still waiting for you to tell us about all these scientists claiming absolute truth.--Percy

You could cut the irony with a knife.Following the Moderator Rules, I will recuse myself for two days and then switch to my moderator role for this thread.--Percy

So you decided to cowardly pretend to not know what reply I'm talking about.

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He can't because, I for one, do consider common descent to be a 100% proven fact of evolution. Well, ok, as 100% as science allows, which, at this confidence level is so strong as to allow me to conclude 100% certainty because I damned well want to define it that way whether the universe allows that reality or not. The practical reality is so compelling as to not care about my logic error. Common ancestry, LUCA, is a fact, absolutely.

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Do I also need to remind you of what you claimed?

I'm currently recused and will assume the moderator role for this thread in two days.--Percy

Yes, you found one! OMG you were right. Someone admits to seeing the LUCA hypothesis as fact.I look out over the world and I see common descent. I see where the genetic data supports LUCA. I see where families grew, evolved, separated in direct line with their descendantsI see this and I say, yes, LUCA must have been a fact.So now what? Does this minor revelation finally prove your god sits upon his throne in his heaven? Does it destroy the edifice of the modern synthesis?Why does the fact that LUCA was a fact cause such consternation in you? Don't answer. I know. It negates the need for your god to exist to meddle in evolution. It calls your creation myth false and dumps your god in the trash bin.So, LUCA is real and your god is fake. Over a thousand messages in this thread and nothing has changed.