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Thugpreacha
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Message 5 of 381 (845383)
12-15-2018 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Larni
12-15-2018 9:46 AM


Giving Up My Pet Topics Wont Happen Easily
Larni writes:

Then I learnt that often people have no interest in my pet topics...

Scary! I want to be understood.

Tangle does keep telling me that atheists don't even think about the things I obsess about. Kinda the same as I don't obsess about Loki. I don't even give Loki a second thought.

I suppose it's polite to pretend that I care much about studying Geology, or Butterflies or Biological Evolution. I have learned a few things by making myself read the other topics here at EvC apart from religion and politics. So maybe there is hope.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 40 of 381 (845549)
12-17-2018 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Tangle
12-17-2018 3:56 AM


Countering Offense with Defense
Just a note to you,Tangle--I personally have never offended you and I will say that you rarely offend me, though occasionally your argument that its all made up is a bit strong. I notice, however, that you seem barely able to conceal astonishment and outrage over the posts of ICANT. Why does he annoy you so much? Should you not expect a conservative Baptist Pastor from a small town raised his whole life around religion to be somewhat different from the crowd we have here at EVC?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 73 of 381 (845635)
12-18-2018 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by herebedragons
12-18-2018 8:36 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
I agree with you guys. I believe in God, and I believe that there is some way that He edifies my inner spirit and conscience with His Spirit, though of course cannot prove it. I won't go as far as jar did and predict that most of the Christians will be goats, though I do believe that the atheists, secular humanists, and non-religious Bible students on this forum have something to say. It is sheer arrogance to think that believers alone have the only possible consensus on what God will and will not do. Ringo claims that doing the message is tantamount to knowing the messenger. I will keep EvC Forum in my prayers, as I believe that God is using non-believers to impact a changing world.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 143 of 381 (845811)
12-21-2018 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by riVeRraT
12-21-2018 7:50 AM


God Tests Us
RR to Caffeine writes:

But today we have people being hung in the public square because of one subjective offense statement. We are on the path to make it a crime to be offensive.

Actually, I do agree with this. What I don't agree with is this whole demonizing of the political Left. The fact remains that human nature---in all its fallen glory--is not unique to any political ideology or party. And if the values of conservative Christianity were held to the light, what we would see is a belief that Jesus wanted us to be free and prosperous and that the Left was threatening to tear this down. Well, I have news for all of us. Jesus may well be allowing it to be torn down. Let's see how Christian we are when we have nothing! The political Right is holding on to an ideology and mistaking it for being God-given.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 146 of 381 (845814)
12-21-2018 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by riVeRraT
12-21-2018 7:57 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
Terrorism is built into Humanity. Islam has it built in their book, Christianity does not.
, True, but it is built into human nature and Christians are human too. What most American conservative Christians fail to realize is that true Christians are called to suffer rather than protecting what they have. To be fair, the political left fails to realize is that there is an authority in life higher than anything they can vote in. Both sides will eventually answer to reality. Every knee will bow.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 148 of 381 (845816)
12-21-2018 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Stile
12-21-2018 8:56 AM


Re: No one?
I think I can see his point. His point is that the political correctness crowd is making it a crime, to be blunt and bigoted. He may claim that free speech should be preserved even if it offends someone. The other side is attempting to legislate morality and create a leader that fills these expectations. Or something like that.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 272 of 381 (846620)
01-09-2019 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
01-09-2019 4:30 PM


hope you get your computer fixed soon.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 364 of 381 (847271)
01-20-2019 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 363 by Faith
01-20-2019 9:15 AM


Re: Why so much poverty driving people to the US?
Faith writes:

If we go Third World, which may very well happen, it will be because of the destructive Leftist ideology that encourages a dependent entitlement mentality and deprives people of incentive and/or opportunity to change their lot and contribute to society.

Of course one could argue that if we keep our birthrate low and encourage incentive and opportunity to improve, the rest of the nations will simply feel as if they have a right to share in that pie that WE baked. That's one thing that causes wars, among others. The poor you will always have with you. Its part of the Original Struggle. Only in utopia can everyone get fed and become happy. The free enterprise system would never work globally. There always has to be the poor. And that is why we will never make it without Gods help.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 365 of 381 (847272)
01-20-2019 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 361 by Pressie
01-18-2019 5:57 AM


Globalism vs Nationalism
It really is easy. If you can't feed them, don't breed them.
Try telling that to the world. They would resent mandatory birth control. They would resent a lot of things. Think of the seeds of global conflict, for that is one way to prevent it---to see it coming and to act on it. Trump's wall is symbolic and at best a temporary bandaid for a much bigger problem.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Thugpreacha
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Message 368 of 381 (847297)
01-20-2019 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by Percy
01-20-2019 3:01 PM


Im Gonna Need My Social Security
both ringo and Percy writes:

Not to change the topic, but given Trump's wall-based shutdown I just wanted to interject that this is why we need to increase immigration.

And don't forget Faith...both you and I need our social security. We need workers to pay into that system.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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