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ringo
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Message 8 of 381 (845394)
12-15-2018 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
12-15-2018 6:17 AM


riVeRraT writes:

The people being offended probably weren't being offended by me per-say, but by their pre-conceived notions and ignorance of where I was coming from.


There's some truth to that. People aren't necessarily offended by you personally but by the ideas suggested by what you say. If you call somebody a "negro" in 2017, it seems like you don't care about what he wants to be called; it seems like you're stuck in the 1950s, when the "incorrectness" was active and intitutionalized.

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Message 26 of 381 (845492)
12-16-2018 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by riVeRraT
12-15-2018 8:20 PM


riVeRraT writes:

I didn't assault anyone, no more than a transgender has assaulted the world with their beliefs.


I've never met a transgender person who told me how wonderful it is to be transgender and encouraged me to become transgender. Christians do it all the time.

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Message 29 of 381 (845499)
12-16-2018 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Faith
12-16-2018 2:08 PM


Faith writes:

They do it by denouncing you if you don't believe transgender is a normal condition, or even suing you in some circumstances.


It doesn't make any difference whether or not I think they're "normal". I think all they want is to be treated with dignity, like anybody else. I try to do that whether I think they're "normal" or not.

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ringo
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Message 31 of 381 (845507)
12-16-2018 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Faith
12-16-2018 2:21 PM


Faith writes:

They set you up to offend by giving your opinion and then they denounce you or sue you for it. Like gays setting up a bakery to deny them a cake for a gay wedding and then suing them for refusing it. That's the tactic. It is not a simple matter of avoiding offense at all.


Tell me the one about the three bears.

I've never had an experience remotely like that. You seem to be describing the experience of people who DO set out to offend.


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Message 74 of 381 (845639)
12-18-2018 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Faith
12-17-2018 4:06 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Faith writes:

Jesus does not teach us to expose our neighbors to terrorists.


That would be covered under turning the other cheek.

Faith writes:

... you are NOT a follower of Jesus Christ.


That would be covered under not judging lest ye be judged.

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Message 89 of 381 (845686)
12-18-2018 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Faith
12-18-2018 6:11 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Faith writes:

You really don't understand those teachings at all.


I've explained my understanding, quoting scripture to back it up. All you say in rebuttal is, "Nuh uh."

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Message 118 of 381 (845737)
12-19-2018 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by riVeRraT
12-18-2018 11:06 PM


riVeRraT writes:

Tell me what is better, teaching people how not to offend, or how not to be offended.


That's a false dichotomy. Teach both.

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Message 126 of 381 (845774)
12-20-2018 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Stile
12-20-2018 1:30 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Stile writes:

The power of love is proven to everyone in their everyday life. Every time a firefighter saves another. Every time a child is born. Every time families come together and promote community. That's the power of love. Call it wimpy all you like - everyone knows it's stronger than anything anyone else has ever attempted to describe.


Humanity's greatest invention.

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Message 154 of 381 (845826)
12-21-2018 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Thugpreacha
12-21-2018 9:01 AM


Re: No one?
Phat writes:

His point is that the political correctness crowd is making it a crime, to be blunt and bigoted.


Inciting people to violence has always been a crime. The question of what constitutes "inciting" is a matter for the courts.

Phat writes:

He may claim that free speech should be preserved even if it offends someone.


Free speech has more to do with political opinions than with expressing every stupid thought that crosses your mind.

Phat writes:

The other side is attempting to legislate morality....


Isn't all legislation basically about morality?

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Message 164 of 381 (845845)
12-21-2018 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Faith
12-21-2018 12:42 PM


Re: Still missing the point.
Faith writes:

It's about destroying Christian civilization.


"Christian civilization" is an oxymoron. Christianity is an individual matter.

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Message 173 of 381 (845858)
12-21-2018 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Faith
12-21-2018 1:05 PM


Re: No one?
Faith writes:

I'm pointing out this evil, this insanity that leads advertisers to act like this.


It's called free enterprise. Businesses aim their advertising where they think their potential customers are. If they think certain comments might offend potential customers, they don't associate themselves with those comments. It's an extension of democracy, actually.

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Message 181 of 381 (845867)
12-21-2018 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by Faith
12-21-2018 1:19 PM


Re: No one?
Faith writes:

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESSES, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE IDEOLOGY THAT HAS THEM IN THRALL


The only "ideology" involved is the understanding that you can attract more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. Businesses have the sense not to support people like Carlson who offend people.

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Message 267 of 381 (846603)
01-09-2019 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Faith
01-08-2019 5:45 PM


Faith writes:

No. Antifa is new and dangerous....


Woody Guthrie had a slogan on his guitar: "This machine kills fascists."

(That's metaphorical violence, by the way.)


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ringo
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Message 279 of 381 (846628)
01-09-2019 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Faith
01-09-2019 4:26 PM


Faith writes:

If it was true then it would kill Antifas today.


You're so filled with hate. It's sad.

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ringo
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Message 286 of 381 (846639)
01-09-2019 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by Faith
01-09-2019 4:54 PM


Faith writes:

And you're so confused it's worse than sad.


You're the one who runs away from every argument when your confusion level gets too high to do anything but stomp on your Caps-Lock key.

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