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JonF
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Message 4 of 381 (845382)
12-15-2018 10:52 AM


It appears that "non-PC" often mean "overtly racist or otherwise prejudiced".
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Message 215 of 381 (846535)
01-08-2019 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by Faith
01-08-2019 11:03 AM


Re: No one?
I see plenty of MSM coverage of antifa and right wing violence. I don't see anyone applauding them. I do see you making up lies.
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Message 220 of 381 (846541)
01-08-2019 4:04 PM
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01-08-2019 2:21 PM


Re: No one?
There is no right wing violence?

You've lost it. One of the many news items when you Google "right wing violence'".

quote:
Attackers motivated by right-wing political ideologies in the US have committed dozens of shootings, bombings and other acts of violence over the past decade, far more than any other category of domestic extremism, according to a new study.

https://www.presstv.com/...ightwing-violence-Washington-Post

Too close to reality for you, of course.

Plenty of people have denounced antifa when appropriate, and when they break the law they are arrested. When they are not breaking the law, which is most of the time, they have First Amendment rights. Really grinds your gears, that Constitutional Rights stuff, amirite?


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Message 232 of 381 (846559)
01-08-2019 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by Faith
01-08-2019 5:28 PM


Re: No one?
I don't kbow how to give specific information, just assertions!

FIFY.

The report I cited is specific information. Here's more :

quote:

USA - Anti-abortion murders (1993 to 1998).
USA - Oklahoma City bombing (1995).
USA - Larry Shoemake (1996).
USA - Eric Rudolph (1996 to 1998).
UK - Neo-Nazi London bomber (1999).
USA - Christian murder of gay couple (1999).
USA - Benjamin Nathaniel Smith (1999).
USA - Jewish Community Center (1999).
USA - Richard Baumhammers (2000).
Germany - Neo-Nazi killings in Germany (2000 to 2007).
USA - Mark Stroman (2001).
USA - Knoxville church shooting (2008).
USA - Keith Luke rape and murder (2009).
USA - Pittsburgh police officers (2009).
USA - Anti-abortion murder (2009).
Norway - Norway attacks (2011). Though perhaps should be just insane.
USA - Holly Grigsby (2011).
USA - Sikh temple shooting (2012).
UK - Pavlo Lapshyn (2013). (Though he was not actually British, but an immigrant only in the country a few days.)
USA - Jewish Community Center shooting (2014). The killer was a fan of Israel-hater Max Blumenthal.
UK - Mold, Wales (2015). Zack Davies, the attacker in Mold, was both pro-Nazi and pro-jihad.
USA - Charleston black church massacre (2015).
USA - Lafayette cinema shooting (2015).
Germany - Stabbing of Henriette Reker (2015).
Sweden - School attack (2015).
USA - Planned Parenthood shooting (2015).
UK - Assassination of Jo Cox MP (2016). Though perhaps should be just insane.
Canada - Quebec mosque massacre (2017).
USA - Kansas racist shooting (2017).
USA - Timothy Caughman (2017).
USA - Richard Collins murder (2017).
UK - Finsbury Park mosque (2017).
USA - Charlottesville rally attack (2017).
USA - Kenneth Gleason (2017).
UK - Leicester car attack (2017).
USA - Blaze Bernstein (2018).
Italy - Macerata shooting (2018).
USA - The "MAGA bomber" (2018).
USA - Pittsburgh synagogue massacre (2018).
USA - Kentucky murders (2018).
Germany - Bottrop and Essen (2019).

http://markhumphrys.com/left.right.violence.html. At the link each incident is linked to details of the incident.

James Fields drove his car into a peaceful crowd in Charlottesville, backed up, and drove in again. He killed Heather Heyer and injured dozens. He was found guilty of murder by a jury of his peers, which recommended a sentence of life plus 419 years (for the other charges) and a fine of $480,000. He has yet to stand trial on federal hate crime charges.

His schoolwork clearly showed neo-Nazi beliefs.

GAO report 27-2300 COUNTERING VIOLENT EXTREMISM: Actions Needed to Define Strategy and Assess Progress of Federal Efforts includes a table of 59 right-wing violent incidents that resulted in death(s) from 2002 through 2015. I've extracted that table into https://drive.google.com/...i3lGVUdV28rhzTcE-QGEFEvlwZU/view and increased the text size. The last entry is:

"Anti-government survivalist extremist killed 3 at Planned Parenthood clinic including a responding police officer 11/27/2015 Colorado Springs"

Those are specifics. Let's see your detailed list of antifa incidents.


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Message 233 of 381 (846560)
01-08-2019 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Faith
01-08-2019 5:45 PM


And yes, research IS too hard for me.

Then don't post unless you have support in hand, and include that support..
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Message 241 of 381 (846568)
01-09-2019 9:17 AM
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01-08-2019 11:59 PM


I researched and presented my points and linked to further information for anyone interested.

Lots and lots of right-wing violence. Far more than left-wing violence.

When are you going to research your lies? Oh wait, you aren't. You hold others to a standard you won't even try to meet. Standard right-wing hypocrisy.


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Message 242 of 381 (846570)
01-09-2019 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 239 by Faith
01-09-2019 9:07 AM


All you have is lies and vitriol.

Why aren't you post at Breitbart or Infowars? You could spew your excrement to your heart's content and be idolized for it.

Remember, I proved the extent of right-wing violence with long lists. If you insist on posting the second in a message I will. It'll be huge.


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Message 245 of 381 (846574)
01-09-2019 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 243 by Faith
01-09-2019 9:31 AM


I provided a brief description of each situation and links to more. Posting the content of the links would cover many many pages and be a copyright violation.

But you're too lazy to move your index finger for one click. .

I was not saying right wing violence has never occurred, I had the current context in mind

You said there is no right-wing violence. If you had a qualifier in mind you should have posted it.

quote:
there is no right wing violence, but there is lots of left wing violence against MAGA people

Charlottesville is the current context. I'll post more.


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Message 247 of 381 (846576)
01-09-2019 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by Faith
01-09-2019 9:40 AM


Re: No one?
Neo-Nazis and skinheads and the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers are right wing. Charlottesville was a "unite the right" rally.

You are attempting the "no true Scotsman" or "no true right-winger" fallacy. Your attempt to redefine right-wing to exclude violent groups is a pathetic failure.


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Message 252 of 381 (846582)
01-09-2019 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:24 AM


Re: No one?
But your semantic points are OK?

Do you you really think none of the members of those groups voted for Trump?

But if you insist...

Antifa is not left wing. Therefore there is no left-wing violence. No problem.


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Message 253 of 381 (846584)
01-09-2019 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 250 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:32 AM


Copying enough to satisfy you would be a copyright violation. Actually,it's obvious nothing will satisfy you.

I'll gladly rewrite them for you at $125/hour, five hour minimum up front.

Isn't it nice now that we know there's no true left-wing violence, just fake left-wingers?


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Message 254 of 381 (846585)
01-09-2019 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:35 AM


The topic is your lack of any support for your own points and your endless and unreasonable demands for more detail so you don't have to click a mouse button.

Oh, and the established fact there's much more right-wing violence than left violence.


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Message 255 of 381 (846586)
01-09-2019 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:35 AM


BTW, reading material others have provided is not research. Seeking out previously unreferenced material is research, which I've done for you
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Message 259 of 381 (846591)
01-09-2019 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 256 by Faith
01-09-2019 11:06 AM


You need to present your case in your own words and you have not done that. I've presented allt at you can reasonably expect.

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Message 261 of 381 (846593)
01-09-2019 11:23 AM
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01-09-2019 11:07 AM


Charlottesville.
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