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JonF
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Message 241 of 381 (846568)
01-09-2019 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 234 by Faith
01-08-2019 11:59 PM


I researched and presented my points and linked to further information for anyone interested.

Lots and lots of right-wing violence. Far more than left-wing violence.

When are you going to research your lies? Oh wait, you aren't. You hold others to a standard you won't even try to meet. Standard right-wing hypocrisy.


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JonF
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Message 242 of 381 (846570)
01-09-2019 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 239 by Faith
01-09-2019 9:07 AM


All you have is lies and vitriol.

Why aren't you post at Breitbart or Infowars? You could spew your excrement to your heart's content and be idolized for it.

Remember, I proved the extent of right-wing violence with long lists. If you insist on posting the second in a message I will. It'll be huge.


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Faith
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Message 243 of 381 (846571)
01-09-2019 9:31 AM
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01-09-2019 9:23 AM


Yes I meant to get to your post but will answer here that the long list really tells me nothing. You say it's all right wing violence but I'd have to read each entry to see for myself if that's the case and I'm not going to do that. And as I just said in a previous post I was not saying right wing violence has never occurred, I had the current context in mind, so if you want to adjust your list for that expectation, and DESCRIBE THE SITUATIONS on your list instead of just listing them, perhaps the conversation can proceed.

Of course it's interesting that you want to get rid of one of the very few members here who oppose the Leftist fascist totalitarian propaganda line.

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Faith
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Message 244 of 381 (846572)
01-09-2019 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by PaulK
01-09-2019 12:30 AM


Re: No one?
I'm not defending white supremacists and Nazis, I don't count them as right wing, they are crazy people, and I do not ascribe Charlottesville to the right wing. I'm talking about ordinary Trump supporters and we/they are not violent.

But many of our opponents are, and where they are not physically violent they are verbally violent, their propaganda gets an airing in all the media that assault the public consciousness daily and even hourley, suppressing the views of their opponents. That is anti-American totalitarian tactics right there, and the violence is all of a piece with it.

If you haven't followed the violence of Antifa you are obviously just lost in the usual Leftist blackout of the truth and swallowing all the propaganda they dish out.

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JonF
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Message 245 of 381 (846574)
01-09-2019 10:14 AM
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01-09-2019 9:31 AM


I provided a brief description of each situation and links to more. Posting the content of the links would cover many many pages and be a copyright violation.

But you're too lazy to move your index finger for one click. .

I was not saying right wing violence has never occurred, I had the current context in mind

You said there is no right-wing violence. If you had a qualifier in mind you should have posted it.

quote:
there is no right wing violence, but there is lots of left wing violence against MAGA people

Charlottesville is the current context. I'll post more.


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Message 246 of 381 (846575)
01-09-2019 10:20 AM
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01-08-2019 4:28 PM


Re: No one?
DrJones* writes:

The Jewish community of Philadelphia would disagree with you.

Pittsburgh?

--Percy


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JonF
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Message 247 of 381 (846576)
01-09-2019 10:20 AM
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01-09-2019 9:40 AM


Re: No one?
Neo-Nazis and skinheads and the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers are right wing. Charlottesville was a "unite the right" rally.

You are attempting the "no true Scotsman" or "no true right-winger" fallacy. Your attempt to redefine right-wing to exclude violent groups is a pathetic failure.


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Message 248 of 381 (846577)
01-09-2019 10:24 AM
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01-09-2019 10:20 AM


Re: No one?
I've been talking about the normal right wing, the majority who elected Trump. I could not care less about your semantic points.

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Percy
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Message 249 of 381 (846579)
01-09-2019 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by Faith
01-08-2019 5:45 PM


Faith writes:

And yes, research IS too hard for me.

Quite obviously. Why should anyone pay attention to anything you say?

--Percy


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Faith
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Message 250 of 381 (846580)
01-09-2019 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 245 by JonF
01-09-2019 10:14 AM


You really did not provide enough information for me to assess your claims. You really did not.

Nobody is asking for the entire content at a link, put the essentials in your own words or copy out those essentials into a quote box. I really cannot read whole websites without hurting my eyes and won't do it without extremely good reason to.

I apologize for not being specific enough, but I thought the context of the discussion was pretty clear. Even going back to the origin of the thread, the whole "being offended" topic is current events, Political Correctness which has become the Leftist method of destroying the nation over the last few decades and now at a virulent pitch since Trump was elected. It's fascist/Communist totalitarian lies and it is going to bring the nation down barring a miracle. I don't think most Leftists are going to like the results either, they just have no idea what is really going on. The violence of Antifa has the same source and mentality. It's all partisan politics with no concern for the wellbeing of the nation or others of a different point of view. It is fascistic and anti-American in its essence.


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Faith
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Message 251 of 381 (846581)
01-09-2019 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 249 by Percy
01-09-2019 10:28 AM


I don't know, Percy, if you don't want to pay attention, don't. I won't miss your input.

But the topic here is doing research for my opposition, not for my own points.


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JonF
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Message 252 of 381 (846582)
01-09-2019 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:24 AM


Re: No one?
But your semantic points are OK?

Do you you really think none of the members of those groups voted for Trump?

But if you insist...

Antifa is not left wing. Therefore there is no left-wing violence. No problem.


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JonF
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Message 253 of 381 (846584)
01-09-2019 10:55 AM
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01-09-2019 10:32 AM


Copying enough to satisfy you would be a copyright violation. Actually,it's obvious nothing will satisfy you.

I'll gladly rewrite them for you at $125/hour, five hour minimum up front.

Isn't it nice now that we know there's no true left-wing violence, just fake left-wingers?


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JonF
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Message 254 of 381 (846585)
01-09-2019 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:35 AM


The topic is your lack of any support for your own points and your endless and unreasonable demands for more detail so you don't have to click a mouse button.

Oh, and the established fact there's much more right-wing violence than left violence.


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JonF
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Message 255 of 381 (846586)
01-09-2019 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 251 by Faith
01-09-2019 10:35 AM


BTW, reading material others have provided is not research. Seeking out previously unreferenced material is research, which I've done for you

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