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Author Topic:   My health journey and why I no longer believe everything my doctors say
Hyroglyphx
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Message 34 of 39 (856120)
06-27-2019 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by coffee_addict
12-30-2018 4:03 PM


Defy conventional wisdom when the wisdom conventionally fails
When I came out of fasting, I went into intermittent fasting. Basically, I eat once a day. After just 3 months of eating once a day, without taking any of the dozen meds I'd been taking for years, all my health issues went away. My cholesterol took a nosedive from the high 200s down to 160s. I was declared free of type 2.
There was a former NFL player known for his freak athleticism and cartoonish physique... he was (still is actually) absolutely jacked.... shredded.... and was still so impressively athletic way after football, so much so that he took up professional MMA... in his late 40s and retired from that, successfully, in his early to mid 50s. A total freak of nature.
People assumed he was on steroids because of his physique. They believed this because he had said that since he was a teenager, he never used weights and only did calisthenics. Nobody believed at face value. In fact, to this day he does something like 1,000 pushups, 1,000 sit ups, and 500 pull ups daily.... more remarkably, he claimed to eat once a day, everyday, since that time. Impossible, the naysayers would say...
No one believed him. But he has proven himself time and again. He defied conventional medical wisdom by eating one time everyday and is just about the specimen of health and longevity.
His name is Herschel Walker.
Ori Hofmekler, founder of the "Warrior Diet," has also advocated something similar with amazing success.
So I believe you in your newfound success on intermittent fasting. I also don't believe half of what doctors say. The only time I give them more credence is when they are specialists who have been in that field for 5 or more years. Most doctors are generalists and, believe it or not, are getting their information from the same sources anyone could with a Google search on PubMed or the New England Journal of Medicine.
Do what consistently yields proven results... after all, that is the foundation of science. No quackery in that...

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 36 of 39 (856131)
06-27-2019 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Theodoric
06-27-2019 9:56 AM


Theo, still easily offended
The butt-hurt is strong with you. I'm not saying that doctors don't know shit, don't go to a challenging medical schools, nor was I suggesting that your wife is worthless (lol, wut?). What I said was that most doctors, like Family Practice or Emergency Medicine, which are a generalized fields due to the wide range of symptoms they see, make their own diagnoses but are standardized treatments. Ever get that generic printout from an ER for discharge instructions?
Sometimes doctors don't really know what the hell is going on with you or how to treat it. They often shoot from the hip with guesswork based on what they believe is standard practice. On average, there 85,000 malpractice cases annually as a testament to this.
If you can find a good doctor who is thorough, it is to everyone's benefit. There are thousands upon thousands of great doctors. But the average time ER and Family Practice doctors actually sit and talk with a patient is 5-10 minutes. You think maybe they're gonna reach incorrect diagnoses often based on that alone? They will.
Lammy's testimony is not unique. Again, not all doctors suck or are wrong... but we need to stop treating them infallibly

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 38 of 39 (856143)
06-27-2019 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Theodoric
06-27-2019 2:47 PM


Re: Theo, still easily offended
You heavily implied that they were lazy and were worthless. If you want to retrract that go right ahead but we can all read what you said.
What I heavily implied was exactly what I said the way I said it. You were the one that invented inferences out of thin air; no doubt this subject touches a nerve with you. For what its worth, right before I typed this I was with a Family Practitioner. He was amazing... sat with me for 45 minutes and went over so many options and went above and beyond with tests to ensure a proper evaluation. Very thorough and clearly loves his job.
Yes treatments based on empirical evidence.
Right... assuming a correct diagnoses in 5 minutes....
Yes, I do take offense. I take offense from you a lot because you have a tendency to make statesment about whole groups of people. Statements that tend to be false or ignorant at best.
And you have a tendency to be offended by a slight summer breeze... if you're the common denominator then maybe it says more about you than it does me. I very clearly qualified my issue with some characteristics present in some healthcare professionals. Doctor sometimes get things wrong, as does everyone in every profession. But unlike in other professions, people tend to place IMO a little too much stock. The title of the thread was why the OP (Lammy) no longer believes in everything his doctor's say. Nothing wrong with that; nothing wrong with a second, triple, or quadruple opinion. Had he listened to his doctors his health would still be deteriorating. And maybe it was a more thorough doc that steered him in the right direction. Medicine, like all science, is constantly being updated... maybe the other doctors were following antiquated science.
Go fuck yourself.
Thank you, I just might do that.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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