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Author Topic:   A Different Creation Model
PaulK
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Message 9 of 20 (849147)
02-26-2019 7:46 AM
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02-26-2019 7:22 AM


Re: Jesus As Observer
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I basically came up with the notion of Jesus (as the only human being believed to exist through eternal time) being necessary as the "observer" that changed the essential nature of the behavior of all electrons during the formation of the universe as we know it. A

Aside from the question of what “eternal time” might mean and the fact that human beings couldn’t live without a hospitable environment and the fact that most physicists seem to hold that observation is simply interaction with macroscopic objects - what is this “change” in the “essential nature of the behaviour of all electrons” you are talking about ? I’ve never heard of such a thing.


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Message 11 of 20 (849149)
02-26-2019 7:59 AM
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02-26-2019 7:47 AM


Re: Jesus As Observer
I don’t think you did go along with what you read. Certainly the webpage you linked to refers to the idea that conscious observation isn’t needed. And I have never heard of this change in electron behaviour and I doubt that you read it anywhere, either,

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Message 13 of 20 (849154)
02-26-2019 11:40 AM
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02-26-2019 8:11 AM


Re: Jesus As Observer
I looked at the site again and it specifically does not endorse the idea that conscious observation is needed.

And I still don’t know where you could possibly have got the idea that there was some change in the behaviour of electrons early in the history of our universe.

I will however point out that experiment has shown that particles are often NOT observed (in the relevant sense). Which is a bit of a problem if you want to try arguing that God counts as an”observer” in that sense (not that there is any reason why you’d have to).


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