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Message 3 of 403 (850267)
04-05-2019 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dogmafood
04-04-2019 8:34 PM


but surely this one is undeniable.

Not to a creationist. We can expect this one to be the focus of extra special double denial. And don't call me Shirley.


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Message 7 of 403 (850298)
04-05-2019 1:42 PM
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04-05-2019 7:29 AM


It was evolving by micro-evolution from the cow- to the fish-kind.

quote:

vertebral and limb bone epiphyses are firmly attached to centra and diaphyses

The anterior margin of the large mandibular foramen is sub-rectilinear, directed anteroventrally, and reaching a level intermediate between the top of the coronoid process and m3. The outline of the anterior part of the mandible in lateral view indicates the absence of clinorhinchy (sensu [15]).

Distal to the trochlear notch, a rough surface on the medial surface of each ulna corresponds to an attachment area for biceps brachii and/or brachialis. The distal epiphysis of the ulna is truncated and bears a flat articulation with the cuneiform.


These are devil words.


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AZPaul3
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Message 15 of 403 (850314)
04-06-2019 2:53 AM
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04-06-2019 2:05 AM


Jeeez! You literalists are no fun at all! AZPaul3 was being sarcastic in an obvious parody of you stupid literalists! Jeeeez!
Of course he was being sarcastic, but to be sarcastic about microevolution in the way he was shows he doesn't have a clue. And neither do you. None of you will ever see what is really going on because you are glued into your ToE expectations.

Double down?

Even sarcasm means nothing to these people.

But it was funny. Hilariously funny, so there is at least that.

M'Lady, I hope this will not overstep my bounds again, but you are the most delightful ignoramus on the forum.


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Message 229 of 403 (850960)
04-17-2019 7:37 PM


How about a little old lady with strong opinions (all wrong not withstanding) and stronger guile. An intellect that got short circuited in church one sunny day.

She is fun to have around.

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AZPaul3
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Message 285 of 403 (851104)
04-19-2019 2:45 PM
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04-18-2019 12:48 PM


I notice you rewrite such pieces to bring out those negatives ("wits" gave way to "guile" I see.)

Wrestling with words is one of those things I do. Took about 15 minutes of debate but in the end opted for the more accurate term. I liked the "wit" meme as true enough but, alas, it just didn't fit the facts as well.

And, no, there is no concerted leftist atheist conspiricy against you, M'Lady. Neither one of us, even in this small community, is important enough to so concentrate the thoughts of all the others.

If you would use that natural intellect in full instead of dabbling in ghosts, goblins and majik you would know that.

And a major bone to pick! Why so degrading to leftist atheists? What about alt-right atheists? They deserve your loving attention as well. We're supposed to be more inclusive and tolerant toward all our neighbors' viewpoints.

Is, somehow, an alt-right atheist less of a person in your religion-rattled mind? Well, yeah, I guess that's true but they did get the atheist bit right so there is that but still.

Don't be so discriminatory.


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AZPaul3
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Message 286 of 403 (851106)
04-19-2019 2:56 PM


I know this is old for most of this group but for those in the lurk-o-sphere who may not know:

If you understand what evolution actually does and how it does it and you really want to see a true example of a transitional between species all you need do is look in a mirror.


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Message 289 of 403 (851110)
04-19-2019 3:58 PM
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04-18-2019 9:44 AM


AZPaul3 writes:
These are devil words.

I don't see why.

Oh, Mike. Come on, you're a religionists. You see the devil everywhere.

Are they devil words if we look at what makes a truck and a car steer round corners?

To your cousins of 200 years ago, most definitely. They were ignorant of the mechanics so the default fallback explination was always the devil. Just like today when a religious person can not comprehend the science of cosmology, evolution, geology, synecology, speleology, zymology they always find satan in there somewhere, even masquerading as god.

If we find mechanics that may look, "transitional" in certain vehicles does this mean cars also evolved?

Of course, Mike. You knew that. Take a look at a Model-T side-by-side with a Lamborghini Veneno. Obviously the latter evolved from the former. Any intellegent chimp can see that.

Gee, we would never expect that, after all I expected a spider to have echolocation when I compared it to a bat.

And you were wrong ... again.

And comparing a Indohyus with a Rodhocetus and a Balaenoptera just throws you into a tizzy doesn't it?

BTW, if you care to go back to the cambrian 600+- million years ago we can compare spiders and bats (protostomes and dueterostomes).

Gee I would never expect any similarities whatsoever in things that swim, there couldn't possibly be any use in God designing swimmers with similar designs because they work in water.

So that's why hippos and whales look so much un-alike? They both swim. And they are evolutionarily related and not all that far back. Your god didn't need to use any swimming similarities with these two. Seems evolution solved the problem without him. Good pick-up, Mike.


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Message 290 of 403 (851111)
04-19-2019 4:15 PM
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04-19-2019 3:27 PM


... can't possibly explain how you could get from one species to another.

Blind religion.

The answer has been given to you many times but the scales cover your eyes. You do not want to see.

Micro-evolution times 100's of thousands, millions, of generations.

Presto, majico! From carnivora to felidae and canidae, from tiktaalik to republicans and democrats.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Edited by AZPaul3, : Yes, M'Love, another late change. Still no leftist conspiracy, though.


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AZPaul3
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Message 291 of 403 (851112)
04-19-2019 4:34 PM
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04-19-2019 3:36 PM


and the truth of the words hit me like it never had in decades of hearing them before, reduced me to a waterfall of tears at finally really getting it ...this was a season of joy which I knew was aimed at my sitting there being a waterfall in his pew.

It made you nuts. A cranial short circuit. An axonic disconnect.

Are you sure you weren't sitting on some exposed wires somewhere? What did this crowd feed you beforehand? Any pills, injections, hammers to the head?

You think it made you happy? You could have been so much happier remaining sane, but seems a bit too late for that at this point.

I know this breaks my bounds, but, in another life where you were not just smart but also sane, My Love, we could have been wonderful together.

Such a cruel, cruel universe.


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Message 346 of 403 (851271)
04-21-2019 6:56 PM


I don't think so, folks.

I think she is sincerely secure in her religious delusions to the point where reality, apparently any of it, is of no consequence. IMHO, this isn't faked or deliberate falsehood but an actual twisting of reality to fit a delusional perception.

The girl really is actually nuts. Off her rocker.

It's not like she's playing with a short deck. All the cards are there. It's more like she thinks they're dominoes and can't tell the difference. While the world is all playing Canasta she is trying to play Texas 42 with the same cards.

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Message 378 of 403 (851365)
04-22-2019 7:29 PM
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04-22-2019 4:24 PM


Calling a person insane, "off her rocker," for holding the standard Protestant belief really ought to be cause for suspension from the forum on the basis of disrespecting another's "sincerely held belief."

Now, see, isn't this wonderful? Exhilarating? Gets your blood boiling!

What better can one possibly do on a Monday afternoon?


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Message 380 of 403 (851368)
04-22-2019 7:47 PM
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04-22-2019 7:34 PM


Re: SUPERSTITION DEFINITIONS OFF TOPIC
Socialism.

Now that IS a devil word.


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