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Message 206 of 403 (850865)
04-15-2019 5:30 PM
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04-15-2019 5:01 PM


Re: Thought Experiment for Faith
You are too kind I'm sure.
However, I'm a creationist and my thoughts are creationist, I reject the ToE. I don't claim to know more than they, but I do claim to be a creationist and I'm trying to think like a creationist and if evos are wrong they are wrong.

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Message 220 of 403 (850922)
04-17-2019 10:18 AM


Being lied about is such an invigorating experience, no wonder I can't leave EvC alone.

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Message 241 of 403 (850986)
04-18-2019 12:41 PM
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04-18-2019 12:27 PM


Re: Transitionals are intermediate in form/features/time/location from before and after
That Pelycodus thing is such a joke, RAZD, it's nothing but where the creature and its various relatives, children and cousins were buried in the Flood.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 242 of 403 (850987)
04-18-2019 12:48 PM
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04-17-2019 7:37 PM


You walk a tight line don't you? You know I'm smart but you have to be careful to be sure all the negatives come through more clearly so your Leftist Atheist comrades won't think you're soft in the head. I notice you rewrite such pieces to bring out those negatives ("wits" gave way to "guile" I see.) Anyway it's nice to have someone here who knows I'm smart even if he has to surround me with barbed wire and bombs at the same time to protect his standing among the real crazy people.

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Message 251 of 403 (851005)
04-18-2019 1:41 PM
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04-18-2019 1:34 PM


Re: Transitionals are intermediate in form/features/time/location from before and after
Anyone with eyes open should be able to see the evidence for the Flood everywhere on this earth. Everywhere, and not least in the strata found all over the planet that oddly enough are stacked in the same order everwhere they are found.

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Message 259 of 403 (851019)
04-18-2019 2:05 PM
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04-18-2019 1:56 PM


Re: Transitionals are intermediate in form/features/time/location from before and after
The depth of the strata proves one worldwide Flood without any other evidence being taken into account.

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Message 287 of 403 (851108)
04-19-2019 3:27 PM
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04-19-2019 2:56 PM


If you understand what evolution actually does and how it does it .
But you don't, nobody here does, you all have a lot of assumptions and imagination and can't possibly explain how you could get from one species to another. So you assert it and can't describe it at all, because it's impossible, you can only make absurd claims you can't prove.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 288 of 403 (851109)
04-19-2019 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 285 by AZPaul3
04-19-2019 2:45 PM


I had the intellect in use for going on fifty years before I discovered the truth of Christianity, and now it's put to a better use than it was before.
It's all leftists here, and I'm not even sure what an alt-right is.
Anyway it wasn't a sunny day in church that changed me, I was changed by reading a ton of books on various religions, all kinds of religions, and ended up persuaded by the Christian books. When I finally went to a church I'd been a believer for going on two years, and it was a couple weeks before Christmas, probably not a sunny day but I don't remember, and they were singing Christmas Carols and the truth of the words hit me like it never had in decades of hearing them before, reduced me to a waterfall of tears at finally really getting it. The pastor made some kind of snarky remark about how this was a season of joy which I knew was aimed at my sitting there being a waterfall in his pew. Oh Joy to the World THE LORD IS COME, LET EARTH RECEIVE HER KING and so on and so forth, and I would wish anyone that same experience, minus the pastor's inability to grasp it.

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Message 293 of 403 (851121)
04-19-2019 10:16 PM
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04-19-2019 4:34 PM


...
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 294 of 403 (851123)
04-19-2019 10:26 PM
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04-19-2019 4:15 PM


Gosh the usual gobbledygook. Because you CAN'T describe how to get from one species to another, all you can do is assert it.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 298 of 403 (851148)
04-20-2019 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by PaulK
04-20-2019 3:35 AM


Please explain what makes it the “same order” and how that supports the Flood.
The fossils of course identify the order of the strata, carried on the water of the Flood and deposited in layers of course.

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Message 300 of 403 (851153)
04-20-2019 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by PaulK
04-20-2019 2:51 PM


No I didn't forget and I knew you'd be right there to argue against my claim that the Flood could account for the order. Well, it must account for it and perhaps the main argument for that is the irrationality of the usual explanation. As I've argued at great length, you can't get a mammal from a reptile for instance, although that is the explanation for their relative positions in the strata/aka the fossil record. And the huge variety of trilobites over what are thought to be hundreds of millions of years just adds another kind of argument: there is no evolution over all those hmy, just variations on the Trilobite species/genome.

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Message 303 of 403 (851181)
04-20-2019 5:38 PM
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04-20-2019 5:15 PM


Insects are not all the same species but trilobites are.

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Message 305 of 403 (851183)
04-20-2019 5:46 PM
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04-20-2019 5:42 PM


Trilobites are clearly all variations on one species programmed by the trilobite genome, like varieties of dogs that all come from the dog genome.

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Message 307 of 403 (851186)
04-20-2019 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 306 by PaulK
04-20-2019 5:51 PM


Sorry, you can't refer to previous posts without repeating their contents. That's just obfuscation.

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