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ringo
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Message 196 of 235 (860550)
08-08-2019 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by Faith
08-08-2019 12:43 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

Yeah but it doesn't, it's purely in the imagination of his opponents.


It's in every word he says.

"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
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Message 197 of 235 (860551)
08-08-2019 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by ringo
08-08-2019 1:14 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Only as those words pass through the amazing transformative imagination of Leftists, but in reality, no.
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ringo
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Message 198 of 235 (860554)
08-08-2019 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Faith
08-08-2019 1:17 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

Only as those words pass through the amazing transformative imagination of Leftists, but in reality, no.


The words are in reality, yes. In black and white, yes.

But you don't read his actual words. You only read what the commentators claim he meant.


"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
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Message 199 of 235 (860568)
08-08-2019 3:10 PM
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08-08-2019 12:43 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

Yeah but it doesn't, it's purely in the imagination of his opponents.

If you saw a white person telling a black guy that he should go back to Africa where he came from, would you think that was racist?

Why would it be any different when Trump says the same thing to hispanic women?


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Message 200 of 235 (860569)
08-08-2019 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by Faith
08-07-2019 6:27 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

YOU are the one interested in their color, Trump is not, the Republicans are not.

Bullshit. If that was the case they wouldn't be hyperfocused on the brown skinned immigrants.

nd there is no evidence of the Left's weird ascription of racism or white supremacy to Trump, who has denounced both many times, yet somehow what's in Leftist heads is taken for the reality instead of the actual reality. This is of course insanity but this will not be admitted on the Left.

Trump told hispanic women to go back to the country they came from. This is one of the oldest racist tropes there is.


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Faith
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Message 201 of 235 (860574)
08-08-2019 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Taq
08-08-2019 3:12 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
The need for border controls has nothing to do with the color of anybody's skin, that's a Leftist hallucination. Telling a woman to go back home is about her unfounded complaints about this country when her own original country is a hellhole of crime and corruption, it has nothijg to do with her skin color; again that is just Leftists missing the whole point as they always do they are so consumed with the Marxist need to call their opponents racist.
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Faith
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Message 202 of 235 (860575)
08-08-2019 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by Taq
08-08-2019 3:10 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
BECAUSE TRUMP WASN'T ADDRESSING HER RACE, HE WAS ADDRESSING HER CRITICISMS OF AMERICA. SHEESH
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Message 203 of 235 (860581)
08-08-2019 4:44 PM
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08-08-2019 4:09 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Telling a woman to go back home is about her unfounded complaints about this country when her own original country is a hellhole of crime and corruption,

three out of the four were born in america. If their country is a hellhole of crime and corruption then perhaps the president should take a look in the mirror before he starts finding blame.

it has nothijg to do with her skin color

right cause he's told white people who criticized him to go back to where they came from.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Faith
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Message 204 of 235 (860582)
08-08-2019 4:46 PM
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08-08-2019 4:44 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Who cares? His complaint was about her anti-Americanism, not her race.
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Message 205 of 235 (860583)
08-08-2019 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Faith
08-08-2019 4:46 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
He told 4 members of congress who are WoC to go back to where they came from. He hasn't told any white person who's criticized him the same. It's classic racism Faith. Should you have gone back to where you came from during the Obama years when you were criticizing him?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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ringo
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Message 206 of 235 (860594)
08-08-2019 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Faith
08-08-2019 4:46 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

His complaint was about her anti-Americanism


Criticizing the government is not anti-American.

"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
-- Woody Guthrie

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Chiroptera
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Message 207 of 235 (860596)
08-08-2019 6:09 PM


How is the statement even defensible?
For those interested, here are Trump's actual words:

So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run.

First, those four women are American citizens, so they are part of "the people of the United States". Furthermore, they are expressing the opinions that are held by a large number - perhaps even a majority - of the people of the United States.

Second, it is the right of the people of the United States, including these four particular people, to express their opinions on how the government is to be run.

Finally, as members of the legislative branch, it is their duty to do what they can so that the government is run as much as possible in a manner consistent with the desires of the people who voted for them.

In what conceivable way can anyone claim that telling these members of Congress to go back to where they came from is at all appropriate?


It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

  
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Message 208 of 235 (860598)
08-08-2019 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by Faith
08-08-2019 4:46 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Who cares?

days after a racially motivated terrorist attack there might be some people who care that the american president is a racist or at the very least is playing to the racist elements within his base.


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Faith
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Message 209 of 235 (860613)
08-09-2019 8:30 AM
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08-08-2019 7:36 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
It's the Left that has been playing with racism, using racism as a bludgeoning tool, lying about Trump and his supporters being racists. The whole racist narrative is a political weapon of the Left and has absolutely nothing to do with Trump.
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Message 210 of 235 (860616)
08-09-2019 9:06 AM
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08-09-2019 8:30 AM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
bwa ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa

so blind


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