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Message 211 of 235 (860640)
08-09-2019 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by Faith
08-09-2019 8:30 AM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

...lying about Trump...


How is it lying to quote his actual words?

"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
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Faith
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Message 212 of 235 (860646)
08-09-2019 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by ringo
08-09-2019 11:45 AM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Oh yeah, there's the trickery. Quote his actual words that don't have an iota of racist content and call them racist. That's what the Left does. He's making a political point but because it happens to be about a nonwhite therefore it's racist despite there not being any racism in it. The scary thing is I think the Leftists believe it's racist, which is a mental problem.
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DrJones*
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Message 213 of 235 (860649)
08-09-2019 2:51 PM
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08-09-2019 2:28 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Quote his actual words that don't have an iota of racist content and call them racist

"go back to where you came from" is a classic racist phrase Faith. You're ignoring the fact that 3 out of the 4 congresswomen he addressed it to were born in the uS. Is trump too stupid to know this or does he simply see people of color and classify them as non americans?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Message 214 of 235 (860652)
08-09-2019 3:15 PM
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08-09-2019 2:51 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
They have been saying anti-American things, like they don't even belong here. What does their race have to do with that? There are lots of white American Communists who talk the same way, like they might as well be foreigners. He told them to go back to their countries of origin and fix the problems in those countries with corrupt politics and then they can tell us how to fix ours.

THIS IS A POLITICAL SITUATION, IT HAS NOTHIHNG TO DO WITH RACE AND TRYING TO MAKE IT ABOUT RACE IS DESTROYING THE LEFT'S ABILITY TO THINK, IF THEY HAVE ANY LEFT TO BEGIN WITH, AND SOME ON THE RIGHT AS WELL WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION.


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Chiroptera
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Message 215 of 235 (860653)
08-09-2019 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Faith
08-09-2019 2:28 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
He's making a political point....

He told members of the legislative branch, whose job is to provide checks and balances to the executive branch, to go back to the countries they came from (which, by the way, happens to be the United States).

What political point was he making?


It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

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DrJones*
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Message 216 of 235 (860654)
08-09-2019 3:20 PM
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08-09-2019 3:15 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
They have been saying anti-American things,

like you did (and still do) back when Obama was president. Should you have gone back to your country of origin?

He told them to go back to their countries of origin

3 out of the 4's country of origin is the US Faith. Thinking they're from somewhere else because they have a different skin color is racist.

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Message 217 of 235 (860656)
08-09-2019 3:25 PM
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08-09-2019 3:20 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Well YOUR ability to think is already shot. Too bad.
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Chiroptera
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Message 218 of 235 (860659)
08-09-2019 3:54 PM


Speaking of "anti-American"
Isn't telling a US citizen to go back to the country they're from "anti-American"? I know if I were going to choose something to call "anti-American", that one would be a strong candidate.

It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

  
ringo
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Message 219 of 235 (860660)
08-09-2019 3:58 PM
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08-09-2019 2:28 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

The scary thing is I think the Leftists believe it's racist, which is a mental problem.


It's better to have a few false alarms than to miss the real ones.

If the alarms were false - i.e. if Trump wasn't racist, he'd be able to demonstrate it.


"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
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Message 220 of 235 (860662)
08-09-2019 4:04 PM
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08-09-2019 3:58 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
I'm not sure Trump is a racist, rather I think Trump believes his strongest possible base are the racists and fascists.

Edited by jar, : wording


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Message 221 of 235 (860668)
08-09-2019 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Faith
08-09-2019 3:15 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
You just can't stand that First Amendment, can you.

The right wing has way overblown their comments, but even with your version their speech is protected. No matter how much you hate their speech, as long as they don't overstep legally established bounds, their speech is protected.

"Go back where you came from" is long established as a racist taunt, since 1798. 'Go Back Where You Came From': The Long Rhetorical Roots Of Trump's Racist Tweets. I expect you won't read it, you don't dare look outside your right wing bubble.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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Message 222 of 235 (860670)
08-09-2019 5:25 PM
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08-08-2019 4:09 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

Telling a woman to go back home is about her unfounded complaints about this country when her own original country is a hellhole of crime and corruption, it has nothijg to do with her skin color;

Even for those who were born here in the US?


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Message 223 of 235 (860671)
08-09-2019 5:26 PM
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08-08-2019 4:46 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

Who cares? His complaint was about her anti-Americanism, not her race.

Then Trump should have gone back to Germany instead of complaining about America during his campaign. Did that happen?


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Message 224 of 235 (860672)
08-09-2019 5:28 PM
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08-09-2019 3:15 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
Faith writes:

They have been saying anti-American things, . . .

Like what?


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Message 225 of 235 (860681)
08-09-2019 8:08 PM
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08-09-2019 5:28 PM


Re: The Left's Imaginary Racism
They have been saying anti-American things, . . .

Like what?

"It's wrong to crowd people into standing-room-only cages."


It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

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