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Author Topic:   The 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination Campaign
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Message 466 of 471 (873561)
03-17-2020 9:40 AM


Ohio cancels Primary
Ohio has become the most recent state to cancel their Primary election.

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Message 467 of 471 (873762)
03-19-2020 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 463 by RAZD
03-13-2020 11:53 AM


Re: Update delegate counts
Democratic Delegate Count and Primary Election Results 2020

Biden 1180
Bernie 885
Δ 295

MSM says Biden is closing in on magic number 1991 ... with just over half the needed number ...

I expected Florida to be heavy for Biden, but I expected Arizona to be better for Bernie

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Message 468 of 471 (873998)
03-23-2020 10:59 AM


Joan Walsh on Sanders' primary defeats
From the Nation:

Is It Too Late for Bernie Sanders to Win Over Black Voters?

This article doesn't seem to be behind a pay wall. If one has shown up, I apologize.

Joan Walsh points out that Sanders is still having trouble connecting with black voters and the suburban women voters, and these groups were key to Biden's wins. She also points out a few of the mistakes that Sanders and his campaign made.

One mistake is not recognizing, as I've tried pointing out, that the Democratic Party is a coalition of different voices and a candidate needs to try to appeal to as broad a coalition as possible.

It turns out that Democratic primary turnout has surged since 2016, but it’s mainly among moderates, like those white, college-​educated suburban women, not the young people Sanders counted on. Those female voters, along with black voters, powered Biden’s overwhelming win in Virginia, where the state legislature has flipped blue, thanks to an increase in the number of women candidates and voters, as well as his surprise victory in Texas, where he carried the suburbs around Dallas and Houston that also went blue in 2018—again on the strength of suburban women.

Walsh also reminds us that there is a hard core of Bernie fanatics who attack anyone who disagrees with them rather than try to engage with any opposition. Sanders has been seen as not doing enough to disavow his deplorables (and, yes, I used that word on purpose). If anyone reads the article, I suggest reading the comments; you'll see the sort of thing Walsh is talking about.


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Message 469 of 471 (874363)
03-29-2020 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 467 by RAZD
03-19-2020 10:21 AM


+Re: Update delegate counts
So the pause has given California etc time to get their counts in:

Democratic Delegate Count and Primary Election Results 2020
Biden 1,217
Bernie 914
Δ 303

not much difference.

New York will likely be the next big test, not only for holding a primary but for how people are reacting to the virus and medicare.

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Message 470 of 471 (874364)
03-29-2020 10:48 PM
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03-29-2020 10:03 PM


Re: +Re: Update delegate counts
New York has just passed 1000 deaths.

Considering the popular media is in the business of defeating Sanders with any excuse OR candidate OR ANY EXCUSE OF A CANDIDATE , and consider also the brainwashable public, then consider this over. The Democratic primary .

The real race is the general election.

Trump is possibly going to win the general election when one considers this unfathomable, to most, mess. He just looks way less slimy to most Americans than the other side and or the general political class. I think his xenophobic smell might not stink to enough voters under this crisis. The issues are all confused, and nationalism has made the infectious disease problem WORSE but Biden won't be able to care to make that case.

Democrats have to find an alternative to Biden, but Sanders is hated by the media. The people will follow the media especially when the DNC is united with the media.

This political class failure is clear to us all, generally, but the media and political class entirely will ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

This means that the election will be chaos. I don't know what to expect.

Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.


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Message 471 of 471 (874365)
03-30-2020 2:05 AM
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03-29-2020 10:48 PM


Re: +Re: Update delegate counts
Considering the popular media is in the business of defeating Sanders with any excuse OR candidate OR ANY EXCUSE OF A CANDIDATE , and consider also the brainwashable public, then consider this over. The Democratic primary .

Being wacko-paranoid are we?

Repeating from my message 464:

Moose, replying to LNA writes:

Minnemooseus (for the 2nd time) in message 451 writes:

I think too many think that Sanders is some sort of messiah, who can do miracles. I just want a President who won't stand in the way of progressiveness.

You make the Bernie movement seem like a religious cult.

I voted for Bernie in the Minnesota caucus/primary in 2016 and 2020, but you create an aura of irrationality around the Bern. I had preferred Warren as my first choice, and Klobuchar as my second choice.

VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO, YOU POLITICO-RELIGIOUS DING-DONG.

Moose


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